[ratpack] Re: Selling Pics
- From: Michael Wells <mcwellsphoto@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: ratpack@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 20:05:26 -0600
So how would we be received by the folks at MMSP if we approached them to be
some kind of group that would provide photographers for events at the park?
Mom's and dad's pay a friend of mine in Red Bluff $20 a shot for an 8x10 of
their kid at a soccer tourny or basket ball tourny and so on and so on, what
about the kids at the Kart track? Has anybody asked if they could get a shot
of their kids racing the karts? And what about the guys at all of the
schools Miller holds, and I sold $80 worth of pictues of a guys on one of
the lap days. What about the guys at the Autocrosses? You see where I'm
going with this, why not offer a photo package with your day on the track?
It worth taking a look at.
Zamboni
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 7:57 PM, Mark Smith <muttley128@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> That sounds interesting Ray, That may be great as group official thing.
> Let me know if i can help in any way.
>
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> Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 09:17:28 -0600
> From: rbuck@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: ratpack@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Subject: [ratpack] Re: Selling Pics
>
> I got an answer from Bret Kepner about the NHRA credentialling. It's got
> me thinking about what to do next. I'm not real sure. Here's what he said:
>
> *"Actually, I DON'T offer NHRA photos for sale on my site; NHRA will sue a
> photographer into oblivion for selling any images from any event. I only
> shoot one NHRA National Event per season and my shots are exclusively for
> NHRA's National Dragster magazine. I do shoot a handful of regional NHRA
> events at Gateway Int'l Raceway but I've worked a deal with the track so I
> can sell. My deal also allows me to castrate anybody else trying to sell
> from there.
>
> Currently, NHRA only offers credentials to a select few who meet their
> criteria and THEN turn out to be their "friends". In other words, just
> applying for and passing muster for credentials isn't enough. In fact, they
> now charge $250 per day for those whom they believe may not be working for a
> legitimate news outlet...and that figure goes to $500 in 2011.
>
> A group known as Auto Imagery has the contract to sell exclusively at NHRA
> events and that won't change soon. Basically, there's no way to get on the
> starting line at an NHRA event without working for a major news outlet.
> Period.
>
> I wish I had better news but, in reality, you'll make far more money
> shooting weekly events than you ever will shooting a major motorsports event
> in this country.
>
> There. THAT ought to depress you. "
> *
> His final sentence in the first paragraph is really bothersome. It seems
> like he has an exclusive deal with Gateway and nobody else can even get a
> foot in the door. I like Bret. He's a nice guy. But apparently he's made
> a niche for himself and intends to keep it.
>
> The 2nd and 3rd paragraphs kinda underline what we seem to be seeing. But
> shooting "weekly events" or selling only to local racers means a hell of a
> lotta hustling. I guess that's the key. If ya wanna make a go of it, you
> gotta keep hustling and apparently making a living selling photography means
> 80 percent selling and 20 percent photography.
>
> Take it with a grain of salt flats...which is where I seem to have the
> majority of my sales...and I may decide to focus only on that area. I
> haven't made up my mind yet. I'm gonna wait to see how the decision at
> Miller's turns out.
>
> Something just occurred to me. Jeromy is the "official" track
> photographer. But he can't be everywhere nor cover everything. What's to
> keep us from approaching Miller's as a group and requesting "semi-official"
> status for MPRA and other local events (like karting...has anyone shot
> anything there? Do they have a photographer?) and then deal with
> national/international events individually?
>
> r
>
>
> Sent from my Dreadnought using that barely tolerable Thunderbird email program
>
>
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Michael Wells
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