Since you brought up grainy, I thought I would share my grainy weekend. I went to a basketball game to shoot one of my neighbor's daughter, who is a cheerleader for Jordan High, cute girl, not very photogenic though. I had to set my camera on auto and 3200 iso, and let the grain begin. I set it at higher iso settings (Nikon changes from a number to HI1 or something after 3200 iso) and I could tell on the LCD that they were quickly turning to junk!!!! While I was thus shooting, another neighbor asked if I would shoot one of the Jordan b-ball players, since her daughter was dating him. That's when the real blurriness came into play. When I got home, I was very disappointed with the results. The b-ball player was very blurry and grainy, the cheerleader was grainy and blurry. My lens sucks for indoor action, at least when it is out of reach of a flash. Indoor sports photographers must all have $25,000 lenses with 1.4 aperture. Now I have tried to shoot my kids basketball games and been disappointed by that before, but the gyms my kids play in are a little dark and drab, this one was really lit up well. I got a lot of orange from the floor too, which was a little strange. All in all very disappointing results. Anyone else have the same experience in a gym? Larr -----Original Message----- From: ratpack-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ratpack-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ray Buck Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 5:42 AM To: ratpack@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ratpack] Insomnia can be fun...I think Since I was awake, anyhow, I thought I'd test some stuff with the 7D. I had a hell of a time with it at the Auto Expo. I got enough good shots to put on my server as "the first shoot of the year" but there were enough non-keepers to be frustrating. Here's the url for what I have on the server now: http://www.chevyasylum.com/cruisin/cruisin2010/Welcome.html The format of that will change asap cuz I've come up with another hare-brained scheme for a navigation schema. More news as it happens. The attached photo is one of the "usual suspects"...that is from my front window (Weather Window.) That seems to be a "constant" I use for testing one thing or another. One of the things I tested this morning was the ISO 6400 setting. Man! Talk about grainy! On that image, I just cropped a little and resized it for web posting.This thought struck me: (Whap!) The shot may be grainy, but it serves the purpose of providing a 3.2 second exposure (at f22) rather than 30 seconds at 800 ISO. I think I may have played around with the 7D to feel slightly confident with it...except for flash photography. I need to work on that a bit....uhhh...no, a lot. Since I'm not the most lucid of creatures at the moment (totally exhausted but can't sleep) I'm just gonna close this out and see if I can put a dent in the huge "to do" list. One quick thing: I may have an inside track to get FIM credentials for the Superbike race. I'm not sure yet, but it looks promising. RtR