Brian, If I were you I'd find a freind who knows how to weld steal, a mig welder with gas is the best way to go but oxy-seteleen is cheeper, you can make a light bike out of steel, just choose you metal cearfully, You can use a lot thinner meatel with steel than you can with aluminum, What I do with my Brother-in-law is cut,sand, prep. every thing, put it all in place, all he has to do is weld, that way I'm not wasting much of his time, i clean it all up after too-& his tool/work area ,, I'm going to start on my first python vary soon, I'll post the pictures/procedures after, I'm makeing a 'el-chepo' version , Wall-Mart is selling a 26" men's mt. bike , 18 speed, for $39.99 can't beat that price, That's where I'll start, Have a good x-mass. Rick in CA. brian smith <briannsmith@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Rick, Thanks for the input. I'm a long time cyclist ....... well over 100,000 miles in 70 years and 15,000 in the past 4 on a Actionbent understeer recumbent........ which serves my purposes superbly ....... but for no good reason i hanker for a python ....... and with limited workshop and zero welding experience I am making futile ventures into dreaming of a practical way to get a python up and running. Whatever I'm very grateful for your positive note Warmest regards Brian On Wednesday, December 19, 2007, at 10:34 PM, Harry Netwood wrote: > Brian, I just got off the phone with my Brother-in-law, He's a long > time aluminum welder, he's tryed the brazing your speeking of, he > dosen't know if he tryed that particular brand, but the one he did try > worked well, he tryed to brake the weld in a vice & it woulden't > brake! > Hope this helps, Rick in CA. > > ============================================================ This is the Python Mailinglist //www.freelists.org/list/python Listmaster: Jürgen Mages jmages@xxxxxx To unsubscribe send an empty mail to python-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field. ============================================================ --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.