On Sat, 2006-01-07 at 07:31, Jürgen Mages wrote: > > Bringing the pivot back to the rider's hips will tend to reduce > > the torque, but putting the pivot behind the rider would reduce it even > > further. > > That´s what I thought too, but until I built the PX.5: > > http://www.python-lowracer.de/pics/Python%20PX.5.jpg > > The pivot is behind the rider. I could ride this bike but PSI was > clearly noticeable and annoying. Thanks for the picture, which is interesting, but you would only have reduced the torque by about 10% by moving the pivot from your hips to just behind the seat. All other things being equal, the torque will be inversely proportional (roughly) to the distance from the pivot to the bottom bracket, and won't disappear at any point. I'm not clear about what other factors will be relevant, so I don't know what questions to ask about the PX.5. For example, is the distance from the bottom bracket to the front wheel contact patch important? ============================================================ This is the Python Mailinglist //www.freelists.org/list/python Listmaster: Jürgen Mages jmages@xxxxxx To unsubscribe send an empty mail to python-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field. ============================================================