Here are the stats for the project page for the PC2: Pivot Angle: 59 degrees Trail: 30 cm Seat height: 25cm BB height: 40.5cm BB-Seat diff. 15.5cm Ground clearance: 5cm Wheelbase: 114cm, but adjusts from 42"(107cm) to 48½"(123cm) Weight: 13kg BB-FWA: 37cm Turning Circle: 2.75m Length: 179cm, but adjusts from 67½"(172cm) to 73½" Width: 44.5cm to handle bars Weight Bias: 60/40 front/rear I have bull horn handlebars plus the shifters and brakes mounted and will upload the picture when I can. I have the PC2 at work and three of us go python riding at lunch time to help the newest rider (Al) get some more seat time. He's coming along quickly. Marcel and I experimented with holding onto each other as we ride, like Jurgen and his wife does. I initially reached over and put my hand on his shoulder and was amazed at how steady I was. When Marcel put his hand on my shoulder, he commented on how much more stable he was as well. The person who puts their hand on the other's shoulder seemed to get the most steadying effect, while the other rider gets a benefit as well, but not as much. We tried to do it with the new rider in the middle of us, but he's a little too wild yet and all we ended up doing was having a big 3 python wipeout. So, we tried it with Marcel in the middle, andsame result when Al plowed into Marcel, who in turn knocked me over :) After we stopped laughing, we found no damage and no injuries. Anyway, it's a very cool effect and I was sure it would be a little scary with two pythons in such close proximity because Marcel and I have our moments of wobbliness still. It was very relaxing to hold onto the other rider, and I can see how Jurgen and his wife could likely cruise along together quite comfortably like that. ============================================================ This is the Python Mailinglist at freelists.org Listmaster: Jürgen Mages jmages@xxxxxx To unsubscribe send an empty mail to python-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field. ============================================================