I recently switched to Agfa Viradon New, because it was easier to obtain and I ran out of Kodak Brown Toner. Yikes, they are more different than I remember from the old Viradon. Viradon New (1+24) seems to 'stick' to the FB print. The yellow 'skin' washes off fairly rapidly, but this never happened with KBT. Also, a white solid deposit develops rapidly to a much heavier extend than with KBT. Worst of all, Viradon after-tones quite heavily in the final wash in spite of a 2-minute treatment in HCA. I ended up changing the dilution to 1+48 and toned for not much more than 45 seconds. The MG-IV prints are still clearly toned. I'm concerned to dilute it further and the after-toning is had to control. Any experiences to be shared? Regards Ralph W. Lambrecht ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.