[pure-silver] Re: The Oriental Rumor

  • From: Peter Badcock <peter.badcock@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:17:00 +1000

Tim and others,
 this claim regarding Oriental Seagull papers you make is rather close to 
home for me. I previously documented my woes with Oriental seagull regarding 
fogging and mottling on this list, however it was also encouraging to note 
that Ryuji mentioned that he found no problems when testing the same paper 
(and batch) that I have been testing (see 
//www.freelists.org/archives/pure-silver/04-2005/msg00276.html); this 
is another reason why I am cautious about making any assertions yet. 
 I can probably go into more details when some more independent comparative 
testing is undertaken since I'd rather be certain of the facts before 
claiming too much. 
 If what you say is true Tim, then its a sad state of affairs if either
- the employee who answered Ray's phone query at Oriental is being kept in 
the dark and thereby being encouraged to unknowingly yet blatantly lie on 
behalf of their boss, or
 - the employee is blatantly lying (and knows it) and their attitude is 
encouraged.
 regards
Peter Badcock

On 6/21/05, Tim Rudman <ps@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 
 
> 
> Hi Ray,
> The information came to me from perhaps the most respected professional
> importer supplier in London, with longstanding professional and personal 
> contacts with both.
> Such arrangements are not always publicly admitted outside the trade for a
> variety of good reasons of course and many of us have past experiences of
> such things happening, so not too much surprises me. Do a test with 
> Oriental 
> GF and see how dissimilar it is to Oriental papers and how close to 
> Ilford.
> This proves nothing on its own of course!
> Tim
> 
> 
>

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