You've got experience with this and a process that works to your tastes. In the most recent instance of looking for an time for Adox 25 I found a time that for contact printing on silver put it at a grade 1/2 to 1 depending on your tastes. That was 9 minutes 1:1:100 and the MDC had no times. I had to go looking all over to find just that starting point. I ended up running the balance at 8 mins. Eric ________________________________ From: Pablo Kolodny <pkolodny@xxxxxxxxx> To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 1:25 PM Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Pyrocat -HD Starting Points Hi Eric, I know I'm almost nobody here since I rarely post to the list but I try to keep up to date by reading many if not all of other's messages. Pyrocat HD is not something that made me an expert but I do have now a nice amount of film processed with this developer. It is a wonder, indeed. Massive development Chart usually is a good starting point, what I've found out is that those times are a bit short to me so I just add about 15 to 20% BUT what I also do is to rate film by half the nominal speed, yes, I like contrast and density and though I might well abuse the wellness of Pyrocat HD in what respects to non blocking highlights... this seems to work well for me for printing on silver, scanning and not as often making platinum/palladium prints as well. So that development times at www.pyrocat-hd.com.... site look reasonable to me except for that of the film speed change, I set my meter at half the film speed for all of films out there: my vice ? Cheers Pablo On Mar 16, 2012, at 3:10 PM, Eric Nelson wrote: One thing about pyrocat hd is that there's no one authoritative listing of times/temps/dilutions for this developer. When I found myself AGAIN spending a 1/2 hour googling for times for a film I'd never developed before, I made the suggestion at the http://www.pyrocat-hd.com site that their's would be the best place to list whatever times Sandy had as I'd find those more believable than ones found on the Massive Development Chart or some forum as we don't know who came up with those times, if they were rank amateurs, or just some prankster inputting any ol' thing. > > >pyrocat-hd.com has responded with this starter page. > > >http://www.pyrocat-hd.com/html/times.html > > > > >