Dear Bill The beauty of photography to me is that it is a mixture of so many things of interest to me; art, chemistry, physics, mathematics and learning in general. I enjoy the end result just as much as the way to get there, and sometimes the journey proves to be more interesting than the destination itself. How we get there does not matter, but we need to enjoy both, the method and the result, appreciating that our methods may differ. My hunt for numerical values is related to my ambition of controlling the process and my need to have evidence of continuous improvement, and has little to do with computers. Nevertheless, I enjoy computers too, because they allow me to communicate with nice, similar-minded people, sharing the same interest in this beautiful hobby and willing to contribute their observations. I would most likely never meet them otherwise, which would be a loss. There is no doubt, computers have pushed valuable craftsmanship into obsolescence across many industries, but they have also empowered a lot of folks to see beyond their horizons, and I wouldn¹t want to miss them anymore. As far as photography goes, I prefer the traditional methods but respect the opportunities and results of some digital work. All the best. Regards Ralph W. Lambrecht http://www.darkroomagic.com On 2005-10-08 00:34, "Bill Stephenson" <photographica@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Ralph - > > Since photography is an art more than a science (science is used to > reach artistic ends) why must we reduce everything to numerical values > which can then be translated into zeroes and ones for crunching by > computer? What's the matter with "mere observations" from an > experienced observer? There are many, many days that I curse the > invention/presence of the computer as it cuts farther and farther into > the humanity of living. (I know you didn't specifically mention the > computer, but once you ask for numeric values, that's where you're > headed.) > > Here's to impression, observation, feeling, and analog living in > general! > > -Bill > > > On Thursday, October 6, 2005, at 11:17 AM, DarkroomMagic wrote: > >> These >> test results sound rather vague. 'probably as good as new' and >> 'somewhat >> soft looking', or even 'has full contrast' don't sound like a test >> results >> but mere observations without measurable evidence. > > ============================================================================== > =============================== > To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your > account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) > and unsubscribe from there.