[pure-silver] Re: Introduction and Sodium fixer question

  • From: `Richard Knoppow <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2019 14:06:22 -0800

I am not sure how long the fixing for fiber paper should take. It takes longer than for RC paper because some of the emulsion gets into the baryta layer so the fixer must penetrate it. The fixing times are shorter than those recommended in the old books because they took into account the hardening action. Not needed for modern papers. I would give fiber something like five minutes in each bath. Then rinse or short wash, then hypo clear, then wash as you have been doing, Kodak recommends 10 minutes for single weight, 20 minutes for double weight and 30 minutes for premium weight. This should be in a washer that provides a continuous flow of water.
There is a test for residual hypo that uses a solution of silver nitrate. Kodak HT-2. If there is much hypo it leaves a permanent stain. There is another test for excess silver, Kodak ST-1, in the emulsion, a weak solution of sodium sulfide. The sulfide stains the halide as well as the metallic silver. It leaves a yellow or brown stain similar to the hypo test. There are more elaborate tests that give quantitative accuracy but they are much more complex and the above simple tests are good enough to confirm the fixing and washing process.
There is another test for the amount of silver dissolved in the hypo, Kodak FT-1, using Potassium iodide. However, the amount of silver in the fixing baths depends on whether a single or two bath fixer is used and to some degree on whether a hypo clearing agent is used (increases the allowable amount of silver.
   I am posting the formulae and instructions:
Kodak FT-1 Fixer Test Solution
Water (at 80F or 27C)..........750.0 mL
Potassium iodide...............190.0 grams
Water to make....................1.0 Liter

For a single bath or the first bath of a two bath system take 5 drops of FT-1 add 5 drops of fixing bath and 5 drops of water. Discard if a yellow-white cloud forms instantly.
For the second bath of a two bath system take 5 drops of FT-1, add 5 drops of fixing bath and add 15 drops of water.
ST-1 can also be used to test film for excess silver. Dilute the stock with nine parts water. Place a drop on a clear part of the emulsion and allow to sit for 2 or 3 minutes. Then blot off. Any yellow stain is an indication of too much silver left in the emulsion.
Kodak HT-2 Hypo Test Solution
Water..............750.0 mL
Acetic acid, 28%...125.0 mL
Silver nitrate...... 7.5ml
Water to make........1.0 Liter
Use distilled water. Any impurities can cause the silver nitrate to come out of solution.
A few drops of the solution should be placed in a clear area of the image and allowed to stand for two minutes. It should leave either a slight yellow stain or no stain. The stain is permanent so the test is best done on a scrap processed with the prints made.
Because silver nitrate is expensive you can make up a fraction of this formula. This solution will keep about 6 months in the dark.
I think these tests are a bit of overkill although the fixer test can be useful in keeping track of how much the fixing bath has been used.
On 11/7/2019 11:56 AM, Miha Golobic wrote:

Great, thank you. So for FB paper 2-3 min in each bath (sodium fix no hardener), followed by 5 min wash, hypo clear, followed by 30-40 min wash (or water exchange) sounds about right as well.

So far my regime was 1-2 min in Ilford Hypam 1+4, single bath, no hypo clear, wash up to 1 hour.

V sre., 6. nov. 2019 20:59 je oseba `Richard Knoppow <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> napisala:


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