All good points, however, while the photographer gets good exposure for his/her image it still stings a little. In this day and age, a posting on the right forum or group can get you just a much exposure. It is without a doubt, a gray area indeed. : ) EJ Neilsen Eric Neilsen Photography 4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9 Dallas, TX 75226 214-827-8301 http://ericneilsenphotography.com > -----Original Message----- > From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pure-silver- > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of DarkroomMagic > Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 10:46 AM > To: PureSilverNew > Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Bad news > > However, it's important that these pictures get out there. It's no good to > hide them in the drawers just because we didn't get paid for it. This > can't > be based on money alone. If it were for the money, I would have stayed > with > flipping burgers. > > On the other hand, all the effort should be adequately rewarded. We > probably > need to decide from case to case, if it is an investment, a good cause or > just a way to get something for free. > > In the case of Agfa, they have no money, not even enough to pay their > employees. The unions would have them for breakfast, if they would > consider > spending money on a competition, right now. > > > > > > Regards > > > > Ralph W. Lambrecht > > http://www.darkroomagic.com > > > > > > > > On 2005-07-15 17:30, "Eric Neilsen Photography" > <eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > These sound like the lottery scams or pleas for help from emails. YOU'VE > > WON, please send us 5000.00 so that we may process your winning. > > > > If you give in, they win. > > > > Eric Neilsen Photography > > 4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9 > > Dallas, TX 75226 > > 214-827-8301 > > http://ericneilsenphotography.com > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pure-silver- > >> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lloyd Erlick > >> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 6:20 AM > >> To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Bad news > >> > >> At 10:30 AM 7/14/2005 , Adrienne Moumin wrote: > >>> The comment about the paper is interesting in light of the fact that > Agfa > >> is > >>> running a B/W photo competition for work for its paper box covers: > >>> > >>> http://www.agfaphoto.com/en-GB/photography/awards/bw-photo- > competition/ > >>> > >>> Prize $$ aside, I think it's sad and more than a little disgusting > that a > >>> multinational company like this won't even pay market-rate stock usage > >> fees > >>> for images they choose. Sorry if I've opened up a can of worms here, > >> but > >>> I've had it up to my hair follicles w/calls for artists to supply free > >> labor > >>> under the guise of "exposure." > >>> > >>> -Adrienne Moumin > >> > >> > >> > >> July 15, 2005, from Lloyd Erlick, > >> > >> It's particularly disgusting to see large international corporations > doing > >> it. I was approached by the UK staff of a huge publishing conglomerate > >> based in Switzerland to donate a few images for a book of theirs. No > pay > >> offered, just great exposure, which is a crock. I did let them use a > few, > >> and the reproductions are very nice. But when did it become acceptable > for > >> million-dollar international businesses to ask for handouts from > >> individuals who create content? What's wrong with paying a few hundred > >> dollars so they can hold their heads up in public? > >> > >> regards, > >> --le > >> ________________________________ > >> Lloyd Erlick Portraits, Toronto. > >> voice: 416-686-0326 > >> email: portrait@xxxxxxxxxxxx > >> net: www.heylloyd.com > >> ________________________________ > >> -- > >> > >> > >> > ========================================================================== > >> =================================== > >> To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to > your > >> account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you > >> subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there. > > > > > ========================================================================== > ==== > > =============================== > > To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your > > account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you > subscribed,) > > and unsubscribe from there. > > > ========================================================================== > =================================== > To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your > account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you > subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there. ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.