Hi. doing a school project, for a programming class and using a programming book. well, did a application, which sells coffee in a coffee shop, you calculate the quantity, after selecting from a list, then it calculates the prices, and the number of items, and then gives you a total break down, of total amount in the shop. then you have buttons, for summary, which gives you a summary of all orders, a button to create new orders, and asks if you want to clear the current order. then a clear button, which clears the current order, and then a exit button, and then edit boxes, showing you the tax, if any tax, if you check the tax check box, it takes the tax out, gives you the discount, extended price, and tax. you get the idea. well, for my chapter 5 example, with menus and calling a function procedure, my nightmare is, that it says if you are basing the project on the previous chapter project, to copy the total project folder which i did. and it said to add the menus, and the font and colour dialogs and to get rid of the extra buttons. well, in vb. on the designer, deleted all the buttons, but complained about one button. so is there an easy way, to delete the buttons on the designer, keep the code, as a couple of menu events, needs to call and share a couple of click events, and in the calculate event, the summary button is disabled. did create some menus, but do not want to duplicate that. so, know how to put a menu strip, and then set up the menus, type here, or use, from another list, type the name of the first item, then arrow down, type the next item, arrow up two lines, then move to the right for the next menu, etc., instead of having to use the route jaws cursur all the time, and having to navigate all the graphic crap, that vs puts, in the document window. just blowing off smoke. so if any one has had to modify a project, that is all i have to do, and been tearing my hair out. did copy and paste from text pad, and then just tried to modify the buttons, but how do you call the event, like for buttons, it is: for example. with .chkTaxCheckBox .btnSummary.Enabled = false ... end with. so how do i do this for the menu item> and trying to edit the menu item, once on the form, if i made a typing mistake or wanted to change the name , how do i use that with jaws 10 beta? if any one can help, spent hours today, trying to do that, and tearing my hair out. cheers Marvin. __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind