RE: to Jamal--EdSharp & nonprinting characters
- From: "Jamal Mazrui" <Jamal.Mazrui@xxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:10:23 -0400
I found that some editors do not automatically start a new line after a
form feed character, so adopted the convention with structured text
format to add a line feed so that a structured text file would display
as expected in any text editor (not just EdSharp).
I could make the new page address feature only look at a form feed. The
disadvantage is that all the EdSharp commands related to structured text
format would not work with such pages. So, there is a trade off. I
suppose one could search and replace \f\n with \f before saving as .rtf.
Let's continue to discuss. Other feedback also welcome.
Jamal
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From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie
McBride
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 1:52 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: to Jamal--EdSharp & nonprinting characters
This is superlative, Jamal! Right now, Jaws just speaks nonprinting
characters as character 0. Not quite certain why that is. Could there
be a modification where EdSharp views either a form-feed/linefeed
combination or simply a formfeed as a page break? I think that would be
truer to the rtf implementation.
On 7/31/09, Jamal Mazrui <Jamal.Mazrui@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Jackie,
> I am having an issue I need to resolve with my empower@xxxxxxxxx
> account, from which I would normally discuss such issues, but I wanted
> to get back to you.
>
> I have not figured out how to make white space characters spoken when
> cursoring through text, though do not know how much of the problem is
> due to the screen reader and might be solved with a configuration
> dictionary. EdSharp uses the RichTextBox control of the .NET
> Framework, so if anyone else discovers some relevant setting, please
let me know.
>
> Today I posted an update to EdSharp with a new configuration option
> called HardPage Address (Alt+H in the Alt+Shift+C dialog). If set to
> Y, the status line will display the page, line, and column of the
> cursor, rather than the default of the line, column, and percent
position.
> Alt+A has also been enhanced so that it toggles between these two
> verbalizations of the address.
>
> Note that a hard page break in EdSharp is a form feed followed by a
> line feed, which Control+Enter inserts. Control+PageDown and
> Control+PageUp can be used to navigate among pages, which EdSharp also
> calls sections of a structured text document.
>
> My web site server may not be reflecting the correct date of the
> latest EdSharp, but you can still use the Elevate command (F11) and
> answer yes to the update prompt.
>
> Hope this helps, and let me know if other enhancements could further
> assist BookShare volunteers.
>
> Jamal
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie
> McBride
> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 9:48 AM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: to Jamal--EdSharp & nonprinting characters
>
> & this is *precisely* why I put it out on list instead of a private
> email. Truth be told, I'd use it in a new york heartbeat over
> Microsoft word, which I consider to be both a resource hog & seriously
> bloated, as well as a possible security threat w/its potential for
> macro viruses, etc. I should just pour thru Jamal's source code & see
> if I could change the relevant parts myself, but picking thru some1
> else's code can take a huge amount of time, so, being busy (never mind
> lazy), I just figured I'd ask the guru himself.
>
> On 7/31/09, Homme, James <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I would certainly be one who would use it for that purpose. One
>> reason
>
>> is because it has such wonderful text manipulation facilities.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> ----------
>> Jim Homme
>> Usability Services
>> 412-544-1810
>> james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> "You can do anything you want to if you put your mind to it" -- Jim
>> Homme Sr.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie
>> McBride
>> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 10:14 PM
>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: to Jamal--EdSharp & nonprinting characters
>>
>> Jamal:
>>
>> Is there any way that EdSharp can be made to display nonprinting
>> characters, specifically tabs, page breaks, paragraph marks, etc., in
>> RTF files, & is there any way it can display page numbers in the
>> status line if so requested.
>>
>> It does a good job on rtf files, & I think a lot of folks who
>> volunteer for Bookshare would like to use it as an editor to
>> proofread
>
>> books, either because they don't have word or because word is simply
>> such a resource hog! I know you're familiar w/bookshare & the work
>> the
>
>> volunteers of the organization do in order to get books into the
>> collection. I realize EdSharp is rather a programming editor but I
>> think it could really shine proofing Bookshare materials as well, if
>> we could get page numbering displayed.
>>
>> Thanks for any info.
>>
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