Re: spelling -- was: Re: lynix question:
- From: "tribble" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:55:17 -0500
no actually it is beating everyone to do with the subject...
Ok, last post...
--le
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob J." <rjustice004@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: spelling -- was: Re: lynix question:
Wow! Lettuce beet this too deth ...
----- Original Message -----
From: "tribble" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: spelling -- was: Re: lynix question:
LOL -- well I think one solution would be to do like the spanish speakers do
and adapt spellings to fit the language rather than try to preserve the
spellings of every foreign (see that spelling?) word that comes into popular
use. Heck, they even change the spellings of names.
Happy spelling.
--le
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 10:59 PM
Subject: RE: spelling -- was: Re: lynix question:
No no I won't shoot you if you spell something wrong I will consider it
rehab. I feel that anyone who does those spelling b's have a mental
disability so your on the mend.
Ken
-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of tribble
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 9:22 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: spelling -- was: Re: lynix question:
Sina, I know it is linux. I spelled it the way the original poster had
spelled it in the subject line, which is wrong. I only intended to point out
the error, but didn't make that clear in my message I guess.
I'm actually a big stickler for spelling. I was a spelling bee contestant
many times as a chile, and after decades of reading huge print with a cctv,
I generally had much opportunity to see and commit to memory the spellings
of many words.
So now you can all feel free to shoot at me if I spell something
wrong...*smile*
Happy hacking.
--le
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sina Bahram" <sbahram@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 8:51 PM
Subject: RE: spelling -- was: Re: lynix question:
Laura, I agree, which is why I'm correcting your spelling to, "Linux" as in
L I N U X. it is not spelled as "Lynix".
Also as for lynx versus links. I can actually tell the difference but it is
a subtle one with eloquence, which is why folks say either, the cat, or, the
chain, after the word lynx or links, such as lynx the cat, when discussing.
Take care,
Sina
-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of The Elf
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 9:17 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: spelling -- was: Re: lynix question:
I always believed it was spelled l i n u x myself, hmmm.
of course my spelling is spelled s m e l l i n g, as in it stinks so...
inthane
----- Original Message -----
From: "tribble" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 3:09 PM
Subject: spelling -- was: Re: lynix question:
> Greetings all -- I know it is an idiosyncrasy of the blind community to
> use
> creative spellings of various words. In some cases this is annoying, and
> sometimes funny, sometimes it makes things hard to find because you don't
> know what to search for, and sometimes it makes things easier to find as
> nothing else is spelled quite like it...
> I'd say the word "lynix" comes in that 4th category.
> I'm sorry if I offend anyone but I think it is a good idea -- in computer
> science especially -- to spell words right as sometimes it actually
> matters -- for example, when you say "links", do you mean the "links" web
> browser or the lynx web browser?
> Anyway, happy computing. One thing nice about a screen reader is that it
> lets you stop and take note of spelling. So this is just an annoying
> reminder *running for cover*.
> Cheers.
> --le
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nimer" <nimerjaber1@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 12:41 PM
> Subject: Re: lynix question:
>
>
> Oh, yes, NVDA does not depend on video drivers. I thought we were
> talking about Linux.
> Thanks
> Nimer J
>
> Nimer M. Jaber
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> BlueScale wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Somehow I missed the question about the video driver the first time
>> around. From what I know, NVDA shouldn't depend on a video driver
>> because it uses APIs to get the job done. This means, I think, that
>> it takes direction directly from the operating system and/or the
>> program you are using. There are no video hooks in NVDA.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 23:10 -0600, Nimer wrote:
>>> Most drivers are built in to Linux, and windows drivers are different
>>> than linux drivers.
>>> Thanks
>>> Nimer J
>>>
>>> Nimer M. Jaber
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>>> tribble wrote:
>>> > I have always wanted to try NVDA but never had time. That is a windows
>>> > screen reader however, correct?
>>> > I am wondering if it would work without a video driver.
>>> > How do I know it wouldn't have the same problem as jaws? Don't all
>>> > screen readers need an intact video driver?
>>> > Thanx
>>> > --le
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > *From:* BlueScale <mailto:bluescale1976@xxxxxxx>
>>> > *To:* programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> > <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> > <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> > *Sent:* Sunday, October 26, 2008 10:03 PM
>>> > *Subject:* Re: lynix question:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Hi,
>>> > So, if I followed this thread correctly, you don't have a cd drive
>>> > to run a recovery disk or boot a live Linux CD. Your computer may
>>> > or may not have a recovery system that works, and Jaws won't work
>>> > on it... REmember, when going up the creek it is always best to
>>> > bring a pattle. *grin* Well, I cdan't help much with the Windows
>>> > or Jaws stuff, but here's something that should get you up and
>>> > running in Linux. Ubuntu specifically. First, though, if you
>>> > want a screen reader to help you through the installation, you can
>>> > get NVDA from:
>>> > http://www.nvda-project.org/
>>> > It's free, so no need to worry about having to sell internal
>>> > organs to get a copy. After that, if you still want to try out
>>> > Linux, there's a program called Wubi that allows LUbuntu to be
>>> > installed in Windows. Even though it is installed as a Windows
>>> > program, it is still Ubuntu, you have to restart and press down
>>> > arrow once to get to it. The installer downloads the packages you
>>> > need and installs them. You will need about 10GB of disk space
>>> > you can of course give it more space if you want. Here's the link
>>> > for the Wubi page:
>>> > http://wubi-installer.org/
>>> > It's no more difficult than installing a normal program so you
>>> > don't have to be too tech savvy to get it up and running. After
>>> > trying it briefly, my whole family has switched exclusively to
>>> > Ubuntu.
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 21:39 -0500, tribble wrote:
>>> >> I know, it is F8, but where to go from there is what I don't
>>> >> know.
>>> >> It
>>> >> requires sight, and I have no tech savvy members of my family
>>> >> present.
>>> >> But I'm sure we can figure it out...
>>> >> Hopefully...
>>> >> --le
>>> >>
>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> From: "Stephen S. Disbrow" <info@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> <mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>> >> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>> >> Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 9:30 PM
>>> >> Subject: Re: lynix question:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi,
>>> >> Usually you need to hit an F key while booting to get to such
>>> >> partitions. I have a couple of IBM Think Centers, and that's what
>>> >> you need
>>> >> to do to reload the system from scratch. I just don't
>>> >> rememberwhat
>>> >> the F key
>>> >> is now for them, but your's is probably different anyway.
>>> >>
>>> >> Steve D.
>>> >>
>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> From: "tribble" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx
>>> >> <mailto:lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>> >> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>> >> Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 9:04 PM
>>> >> Subject: Re: lynix question:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> > What I was told is that there is a separate partition or
>>> >> section
>>> >> of the
>>> >> > disk
>>> >> > where the recovery software is located. Running this will
>>> >> reinitialize
>>> >> > everything back to its original state -- zapping all data files
>>> >> in the
>>> >> > process.
>>> >> > I have already backed up the data so I want to use this "ground
>>> >> 0"
>>> >> > program.
>>> >> > I just don't know where to find it or what to look for if I get
>>> >> a
>>> >> > non-tech-savvy sighted family member to help me.
>>> >> > Thanx
>>> >> > --le
>>> >> >
>>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> > From: "The Elf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> <mailto:inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> <mailto:inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>> >> > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>> >> > Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 7:39 PM
>>> >> > Subject: Re: lynix question:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > ok, what I was talking about is my comp, and several others I
>>> >> have seen in
>>> >> > the recent past have a C: drive and a D: drive set up on the
>>> >> hard drive,
>>> >> > then the CD/DVD RW drive is the E: drive, and the files that
>>> >> you
>>> >> could use
>>> >> > for a reformat/reload of the c drive, and for creation of your
>>> >> restore
>>> >> > disks
>>> >> > was in that D drive,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > now, there was a while that they put the files in the windows
>>> >> folder and
>>> >> > folks were supposed to make there disks soon after purchase or
>>> >> risk
>>> >> > loosing
>>> >> > them, but not knowing your comp, I don't know if this was the
>>> >> case.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > sorry I can't assist more,
>>> >> > inthane
>>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> > From: "tribble" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx
>>> >> <mailto:lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>> >> > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>> >> > Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 1:45 PM
>>> >> > Subject: Re: lynix question:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> Inthane, the restore folder no longer exists as I went into
>>> >> system
>>> >> >> performance and disabled rollbacks. This trashes the database
>>> >> of
>>> >> >> snapshots
>>> >> >> and frees up disk space. After doing this dangerous step i
>>> >> found I only
>>> >> >> gained 4gb of free space. *sigh*
>>> >> >> What I want is to find that sector where the recovery files
>>> >> are
>>> >> loaded
>>> >> >> and
>>> >> >> reinitialize the system to its basic state.
>>> >> >> Alas, this will require a sightling present.
>>> >> >> As for the d drive, that only helps if I have a cd to put in
>>> >> it, which I
>>> >> >> don't.
>>> >> >> Happy hacking.
>>> >> >> --le
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> >> From: "The Elf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> <mailto:inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> <mailto:inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>> >> >> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>> >> >> Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 1:36 PM
>>> >> >> Subject: Re: lynix question:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Laura,
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> 1. usually the drivers are available, either in a folder on
>>> >> the
>>> >> C drive
>>> >> >> along with restore files, or more usually now a days, on a D
>>> >> drive of the
>>> >> >> comp.
>>> >> >> 2. no turning off that feature does not ka bosh the reloading
>>> >> >> capabilities.
>>> >> >> 3. usually there is an item in the start menu, often in the
>>> >> system tools
>>> >> >> folder that may look like a second "system restore", and at
>>> >> least on my
>>> >> >> comp, the names almost the same, system reset, which included
>>> >> an
>>> >> >> application
>>> >> >> to create my restore disks, one to load/reload the drivers and
>>> >> certain
>>> >> >> programs like Norton and MacAfee anti-spyware, and a third for
>>> >> a total
>>> >> >> wipe
>>> >> >> and reload of the system with options to "try to save" data
>>> >> and
>>> >> do the
>>> >> >> deed,
>>> >> >> or just "wipe everything and reload".
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> 4. you should be able to get your drivers off the manufactures
>>> >> website as
>>> >> >> well, I know I can, and have done so for others.
>>> >> >> 5. I am fairly sure that the drivers are quite different,
>>> >> since
>>> >> I have
>>> >> >> seen
>>> >> >> driver packages for Linux along with the windows ones on sites
>>> >> for video
>>> >> >> cards and the like, but I don't think they will be included
>>> >> with the
>>> >> >> restore
>>> >> >> set.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> HTH,
>>> >> >> inthane
>>> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> >> From: "tribble" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx
>>> >> <mailto:lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>> >> >> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>> >> >> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 8:36 PM
>>> >> >> Subject: Re: lynix question:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>> Hello -- while we're on the subject of linux --
>>> >> >>> I've never installed linux, but would like to do so on an old
>>> >> laptop.
>>> >> >>> However I don't know the drivers I need or where or how to
>>> >> find out.
>>> >> >>> Windows xp is on it how, but it is in a fractured state in
>>> >> which jaws
>>> >> >>> can't
>>> >> >>> work as something has zapped the video driver, and I don't
>>> >> know where to
>>> >> >>> find this driver on the net. (It's a long story -- don't ask
>>> >> *frowny*).
>>> >> >>> I
>>> >> >>> can't roll back the OS because that has been disabled in
>>> >> order
>>> >> to free
>>> >> >>> up
>>> >> >>> space on the disk.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> Does anyone know how to find out what driver I need? Are the
>>> >> drivers the
>>> >> >>> same in windows as they are in linux? (I doubt it, but I am
>>> >> not a driver
>>> >> >>> guru.)
>>> >> >>> If linux drivers are different, where can I find them?
>>> >> >>> This laptop did not come with recovery CDs, so I assume there
>>> >> is a
>>> >> >>> segment
>>> >> >>> reserved on disk to put it back in its initial state, right?
>>> >> Has anyone
>>> >> >>> ever
>>> >> >>> done this? I know it would require sighted assistance, but I
>>> >> am
>>> >> >>> wondering
>>> >> >>> if the fact that I disabled rollbacks might have zapped this
>>> >> feature as
>>> >> >>> well. Does anyone know?
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> If anyone has any answers I would love to hear them!
>>> >> >>> TIA
>>> >> >>> --le
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> >>> From: "Nimer" <nimerjaber1@xxxxxxxxx
>>> >> <mailto:nimerjaber1@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:nimerjaber1@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>> >> >>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>> >> >>> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 10:17 PM
>>> >> >>> Subject: Re: lynix question:
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> The beta is workable, and I recommend that you use the
>>> >> desktop
>>> >> version.
>>> >> >>> It has an accessible installer.
>>> >> >>> Thanks
>>> >> >>> Nimer J
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> Nimer M. Jaber
>>> >> >>>
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>>> >> entity to
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>>> >> material.
>>> >> >>> Any
>>> >> >>> review,
>>> >> >>> retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of
>>> >> any action
>>> >> >>> in
>>> >> >>> reliance
>>> >> >>> upon this information by persons or entities other than the
>>> >> intended
>>> >> >>> recipient is
>>> >> >>> prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the
>>> >> sender and
>>> >> >>> delete the
>>> >> >>> material from any computer.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> Website:
>>> >> >>> http://www.empowertheblind.org
>>> >> >>> Phone:
>>> >> >>> (720) (251-4530)
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> Charles E. Black wrote:
>>> >> >>>> Will I need visual assistance to install it? Is there a way
>>> >> to load
>>> >> >>>> Lynix
>>> >> >>>> using speech? Thanks!
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> Charles E. Black
>>> >> >>>> 4127 Pinehaven Ct.
>>> >> >>>> Columbia, SC 29205
>>> >> >>>> Phone: (803) 790-5586
>>> >> >>>> Cell: (803) 201-0499
>>> >> >>>> Email: charlesblackusc@xxxxxxxxx
>>> >> <mailto:charlesblackusc@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:charlesblackusc@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> >> >>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> <mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> <mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> >>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
>>> >> Chris
>>> >> >>>> Hallsworth
>>> >> >>>> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 12:10 PM
>>> >> >>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> >>>> Subject: Re: lynix question:
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> All of these, Ubuntu will answer your questions. It has both
>>> >> a console
>>> >> >>>> and
>>> >> >>>> a
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> GUI interface. You can get it, free, from www.ubuntu.com
>>> >> <http://www.ubuntu.com> <http://www.ubuntu.com>.
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> --
>>> >> >>>> Chris Hallsworth
>>> >> >>>> e-mail: christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> <mailto:christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> <mailto:christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> >>>> msn: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> <mailto:ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> >>>> skype: chrishallsworth7266
>>> >> >>>> klango: chrishallsworth
>>> >> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> >>>> From: "Charles E. Black" <charlesblackusc@xxxxxxxxx
>>> >> <mailto:charlesblackusc@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> <mailto:charlesblackusc@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>> >> >>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>> >> >>>> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 3:21 PM
>>> >> >>>> Subject: lynix question:
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>>> Hello:
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> Is anyone aware of a lynix system that does the following:
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> 1. has an built in speech engine?
>>> >> >>>>> 2. Can run through a computers speech card?
>>> >> >>>>> 3. What type of interface does it have, (console or gui)?
>>> >> >>>>> 4. What is it called?
>>> >> >>>>> 5. Where can I obtain it?
>>> >> >>>>> 6. How much will it cost?
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> Thanks for any help.
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> Charles E. Black
>>> >> >>>>> 4127 Pinehaven Ct.
>>> >> >>>>> Columbia, SC 29205
>>> >> >>>>> Phone: (803) 790-5586
>>> >> >>>>> Cell: (803) 201-0499
>>> >> >>>>> Email: charlesblackusc@xxxxxxxxx
>>> >> <mailto:charlesblackusc@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:charlesblackusc@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> >>>>>
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