Re: lynix question:

  • From: Nimer <nimerjaber1@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:41:41 -0600

Oh, yes, NVDA does not depend on video drivers. I thought we were talking about Linux.

Thanks
Nimer J

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BlueScale wrote:
Hi,
Somehow I missed the question about the video driver the first time around. From what I know, NVDA shouldn't depend on a video driver because it uses APIs to get the job done. This means, I think, that it takes direction directly from the operating system and/or the program you are using. There are no video hooks in NVDA.


On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 23:10 -0600, Nimer wrote:
Most drivers are built in to Linux, and windows drivers are different than linux drivers.
Thanks
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tribble wrote:
> I have always wanted to try NVDA but never had time. That is a windows > screen reader however, correct?
> I am wondering if it would work without a video driver.
> How do I know it wouldn't have the same problem as jaws? Don't all > screen readers need an intact video driver?
> Thanx
> --le
> >
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* BlueScale <mailto:bluescale1976@xxxxxxx>
>     *To:* programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
<mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     *Sent:* Sunday, October 26, 2008 10:03 PM
>     *Subject:* Re: lynix question:
>
>
>     Hi,
>     So, if I followed this thread correctly, you don't have a cd drive
>     to run a recovery disk or boot a live Linux CD.  Your computer may
>     or may not have a recovery system that works, and Jaws won't work
>     on it...  REmember, when going up the creek it is always best to
>     bring a pattle. *grin*  Well, I cdan't help much with the Windows
>     or Jaws stuff, but here's something that should get you up and
>     running in Linux.  Ubuntu specifically.  First, though, if you
>     want a screen reader to help you through the installation, you can
>     get NVDA from:
>     http://www.nvda-project.org/
>     It's free, so no need to worry about having to sell internal
>     organs to get a copy.  After that, if you still want to try out
>     Linux, there's a program called Wubi that allows LUbuntu to be
>     installed in Windows.  Even though it is installed as a Windows
>     program, it is still Ubuntu, you have to restart and press down
>     arrow once to get to it.  The installer downloads the packages you
>     need and installs them.  You will need about 10GB of disk space
>     you can of course give it more space if you want.  Here's the link
>     for the Wubi page:
>     http://wubi-installer.org/
>     It's no more difficult than installing a normal program so you
>     don't have to be too tech savvy to get it up and running.  After
>     trying it briefly, my whole family has switched exclusively to Ubuntu.
>
>     On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 21:39 -0500, tribble wrote:
>> I know, it is F8, but where to go from there is what I don't know. It >> requires sight, and I have no tech savvy members of my family present.
>>     But I'm sure we can figure it out...
>>     Hopefully...
>>     --le
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Stephen S. Disbrow" <info@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>     To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
<mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>     Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 9:30 PM
>>     Subject: Re: lynix question:
>>
>>
>>     Hi,
>>         Usually you need to hit an F key while booting to get to such
>>     partitions. I have a couple of IBM Think Centers, and that's what you 
need
>>     to do to reload the system from scratch. I just don't rememberwhat the F 
key
>>     is now for them, but your's is probably different anyway.
>>
>>     Steve D.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "tribble" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>     To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
<mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>     Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 9:04 PM
>>     Subject: Re: lynix question:
>>
>>
>>     > What I was told is that there is a separate partition or section of the
>>     > disk
>>     > where the recovery software is located. Running this will reinitialize
>>     > everything back to its original state -- zapping all data files in the
>>     > process.
>>     > I have already backed up the data so I want to use this "ground 0"
>>     > program.
>>     > I just don't know where to find it or what to look for if I get a
>>     > non-tech-savvy sighted family member to help me.
>>     > Thanx
>>     > --le
>>     >
>> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "The Elf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>     > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
<mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>     > Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 7:39 PM
>>     > Subject: Re: lynix question:
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > ok, what I was talking about is my comp, and several others I have 
seen in
>>     > the recent past have a C: drive and a D: drive set up on the hard 
drive,
>>     > then the CD/DVD RW drive is the E: drive, and the files that you could 
use
>>     > for a reformat/reload of the c drive, and for creation of your restore
>>     > disks
>>     > was in that D drive,
>>     >
>>     > now, there was a while that they put the files in the windows folder 
and
>>     > folks were supposed to make there disks soon after purchase or risk
>>     > loosing
>>     > them, but not knowing your comp, I don't know if this was the case.
>>     >
>>     > sorry I can't assist more,
>>     > inthane
>> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "tribble" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>     > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
<mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>     > Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 1:45 PM
>>     > Subject: Re: lynix question:
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >> Inthane, the restore folder no longer exists as I went into system
>>     >> performance and disabled rollbacks. This trashes the database of
>>     >> snapshots
>>     >> and frees up disk space.  After doing this dangerous step i found I 
only
>>     >> gained 4gb of free space.  *sigh*
>>     >> What I want is to find that sector where the recovery files are loaded
>>     >> and
>>     >> reinitialize the system to its basic state.
>>     >> Alas, this will require a sightling present.
>>     >> As for the d drive, that only helps if I have a cd to put in it, 
which I
>>     >> don't.
>>     >> Happy hacking.
>>     >> --le
>>     >>
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "The Elf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>     >> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
<mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>     >> Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 1:36 PM
>>     >> Subject: Re: lynix question:
>>     >>
>>     >>
>>     >> Laura,
>>     >>
>>     >> 1. usually the drivers are available, either in a folder on the C 
drive
>>     >> along with restore files, or more usually now a days, on a D drive of 
the
>>     >> comp.
>>     >> 2. no turning off that feature does not ka bosh the reloading
>>     >> capabilities.
>>     >> 3. usually there is an item in the start  menu, often in the system 
tools
>>     >> folder that may look like a second "system restore", and at least on 
my
>>     >> comp, the names almost the same, system reset, which included an
>>     >> application
>>     >> to create my restore disks, one to load/reload the drivers and certain
>>     >> programs like Norton and MacAfee anti-spyware, and a third for a total
>>     >> wipe
>>     >> and reload of the system with options to "try to save" data and do the
>>     >> deed,
>>     >> or just "wipe everything and reload".
>>     >>
>>     >> 4. you should be able to get your drivers off the manufactures 
website as
>>     >> well, I know I can, and have done so for others.
>>     >> 5. I am fairly sure that the drivers are quite different, since I have
>>     >> seen
>>     >> driver packages for Linux along with the windows ones on sites for 
video
>>     >> cards and the like, but I don't think they will be included with the
>>     >> restore
>>     >> set.
>>     >>
>>     >> HTH,
>>     >> inthane
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "tribble" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>     >> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
<mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>     >> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 8:36 PM
>>     >> Subject: Re: lynix question:
>>     >>
>>     >>
>>     >>> Hello -- while we're on the subject of linux --
>>     >>> I've never installed linux, but would like to do so on an old laptop.
>>     >>> However I don't know the drivers I need or where or how to find out.
>>     >>> Windows xp is on it how, but it is in a fractured state in which jaws
>>     >>> can't
>>     >>> work as something has zapped the video driver, and I don't know 
where to
>>     >>> find this driver on the net. (It's a long story -- don't ask 
*frowny*).
>>     >>> I
>>     >>> can't roll back the OS because that has been disabled in order to 
free
>>     >>> up
>>     >>> space on the disk.
>>     >>>
>>     >>> Does anyone know how to find out what driver I need? Are the drivers 
the
>>     >>> same in windows as they are in linux? (I doubt it, but I am not a 
driver
>>     >>> guru.)
>>     >>> If linux drivers are different, where can I find them?
>>     >>> This laptop did not come with recovery CDs, so I assume there is a
>>     >>> segment
>>     >>> reserved on disk to put it back in its initial state, right? Has 
anyone
>>     >>> ever
>>     >>> done this?  I know it would require sighted assistance, but I am
>>     >>> wondering
>>     >>> if the fact that I disabled rollbacks might have zapped this feature 
as
>>     >>> well. Does anyone know?
>>     >>>
>>     >>> If anyone has any answers I would love to hear them!
>>     >>> TIA
>>     >>> --le
>>     >>>
>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>> From: "Nimer" <nimerjaber1@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:nimerjaber1@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:nimerjaber1@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>     >>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
<mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>     >>> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 10:17 PM
>>     >>> Subject: Re: lynix question:
>>     >>>
>>     >>>
>>     >>> The beta is workable, and I recommend that you use the desktop 
version.
>>     >>> It has an accessible installer.
>>     >>> Thanks
>>     >>> Nimer J
>>     >>>
>>     >>> Nimer M. Jaber
>>     >>>
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>>     >>>
>>     >>> Charles E. Black wrote:
>>     >>>> Will I need visual assistance to install it?  Is there a way to load
>>     >>>> Lynix
>>     >>>> using speech?  Thanks!
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>>  Charles E. Black
>>     >>>> 4127 Pinehaven Ct.
>>     >>>> Columbia, SC  29205
>>     >>>> Phone:  (803) 790-5586
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>>     >>>>
>>     >>>> -----Original Message-----
>>     >>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
<mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>     >>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris
>>     >>>> Hallsworth
>>     >>>> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 12:10 PM
>>     >>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
<mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>     >>>> Subject: Re: lynix question:
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>> All of these, Ubuntu will answer your questions. It has both a 
console
>>     >>>> and
>>     >>>> a
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>> GUI interface. You can get it, free, from www.ubuntu.com 
<http://www.ubuntu.com> <http://www.ubuntu.com>.
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>> --
>>     >>>> Chris Hallsworth
>>     >>>> e-mail: christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
<mailto:christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>     >>>> msn: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx> 
<mailto:ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>     >>>> skype: chrishallsworth7266
>>     >>>> klango: chrishallsworth
>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>>> From: "Charles E. Black" <charlesblackusc@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:charlesblackusc@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:charlesblackusc@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>     >>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
<mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>     >>>> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 3:21 PM
>>     >>>> Subject: lynix question:
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>>> Hello:
>>     >>>>>
>>     >>>>> Is anyone aware of a lynix system that does the following:
>>     >>>>>
>>     >>>>> 1.  has an built in speech engine?
>>     >>>>> 2.  Can run through a computers speech card?
>>     >>>>> 3.  What type of interface does it have, (console or gui)?
>>     >>>>> 4.  What is it called?
>>     >>>>> 5.  Where can I obtain it?
>>     >>>>> 6.  How much will it cost?
>>     >>>>>
>>     >>>>> Thanks for any help.
>>     >>>>>
>>     >>>>> Charles E. Black
>>     >>>>> 4127 Pinehaven Ct.
>>     >>>>> Columbia, SC  29205
>>     >>>>> Phone:  (803) 790-5586
>>     >>>>> Cell:   (803) 201-0499
>>     >>>>> Email:  charlesblackusc@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:charlesblackusc@xxxxxxxxx> 
<mailto:charlesblackusc@xxxxxxxxx>
>>     >>>>>
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