yes, it's a Windows screen reader. I used to use it back when I used Windows. It works very well and I gave uup all commertial screen readers including Jaws and didn't have any problems. I have heard that it is even better now. On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 22:32 -0500, tribble wrote: > I have always wanted to try NVDA but never had time. That is a windows > screen reader however, correct? > I am wondering if it would work without a video driver. > How do I know it wouldn't have the same problem as jaws? Don't all > screen readers need an intact video driver? > Thanx > --le > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: BlueScale > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 10:03 PM > Subject: Re: lynix question: > > > > > > Hi, > So, if I followed this thread correctly, you don't have a cd > drive to run a recovery disk or boot a live Linux CD. Your > computer may or may not have a recovery system that works, and > Jaws won't work on it... REmember, when going up the creek it > is always best to bring a pattle. *grin* Well, I cdan't help > much with the Windows or Jaws stuff, but here's something that > should get you up and running in Linux. Ubuntu specifically. > First, though, if you want a screen reader to help you through > the installation, you can get NVDA from: > http://www.nvda-project.org/ > It's free, so no need to worry about having to sell internal > organs to get a copy. After that, if you still want to try > out Linux, there's a program called Wubi that allows LUbuntu > to be installed in Windows. Even though it is installed as a > Windows program, it is still Ubuntu, you have to restart and > press down arrow once to get to it. The installer downloads > the packages you need and installs them. You will need about > 10GB of disk space you can of course give it more space if you > want. Here's the link for the Wubi page: > http://wubi-installer.org/ > It's no more difficult than installing a normal program so you > don't have to be too tech savvy to get it up and running. > After trying it briefly, my whole family has switched > exclusively to Ubuntu. > > On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 21:39 -0500, tribble wrote: > > > I know, it is F8, but where to go from there is what I don't know. > It > > requires sight, and I have no tech savvy members of my family > present. > > But I'm sure we can figure it out... > > Hopefully... > > --le > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Stephen S. Disbrow" <info@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 9:30 PM > > Subject: Re: lynix question: > > > > > > Hi, > > Usually you need to hit an F key while booting to get to such > > partitions. I have a couple of IBM Think Centers, and that's what > you need > > to do to reload the system from scratch. I just don't rememberwhat > the F key > > is now for them, but your's is probably different anyway. > > > > Steve D. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "tribble" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx> > > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 9:04 PM > > Subject: Re: lynix question: > > > > > > > What I was told is that there is a separate partition or section > of the > > > disk > > > where the recovery software is located. Running this will > reinitialize > > > everything back to its original state -- zapping all data files > in the > > > process. > > > I have already backed up the data so I want to use this "ground 0" > > > program. > > > I just don't know where to find it or what to look for if I get a > > > non-tech-savvy sighted family member to help me. > > > Thanx > > > --le > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "The Elf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 7:39 PM > > > Subject: Re: lynix question: > > > > > > > > > ok, what I was talking about is my comp, and several others I > have seen in > > > the recent past have a C: drive and a D: drive set up on the hard > drive, > > > then the CD/DVD RW drive is the E: drive, and the files that you > could use > > > for a reformat/reload of the c drive, and for creation of your > restore > > > disks > > > was in that D drive, > > > > > > now, there was a while that they put the files in the windows > folder and > > > folks were supposed to make there disks soon after purchase or > risk > > > loosing > > > them, but not knowing your comp, I don't know if this was the > case. > > > > > > sorry I can't assist more, > > > inthane > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "tribble" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx> > > > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 1:45 PM > > > Subject: Re: lynix question: > > > > > > > > >> Inthane, the restore folder no longer exists as I went into > system > > >> performance and disabled rollbacks. This trashes the database of > > >> snapshots > > >> and frees up disk space. After doing this dangerous step i > found I only > > >> gained 4gb of free space. *sigh* > > >> What I want is to find that sector where the recovery files are > loaded > > >> and > > >> reinitialize the system to its basic state. > > >> Alas, this will require a sightling present. > > >> As for the d drive, that only helps if I have a cd to put in it, > which I > > >> don't. > > >> Happy hacking. > > >> --le > > >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: "The Elf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >> Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 1:36 PM > > >> Subject: Re: lynix question: > > >> > > >> > > >> Laura, > > >> > > >> 1. usually the drivers are available, either in a folder on the > C drive > > >> along with restore files, or more usually now a days, on a D > drive of the > > >> comp. > > >> 2. no turning off that feature does not ka bosh the reloading > > >> capabilities. > > >> 3. usually there is an item in the start menu, often in the > system tools > > >> folder that may look like a second "system restore", and at > least on my > > >> comp, the names almost the same, system reset, which included an > > >> application > > >> to create my restore disks, one to load/reload the drivers and > certain > > >> programs like Norton and MacAfee anti-spyware, and a third for a > total > > >> wipe > > >> and reload of the system with options to "try to save" data and > do the > > >> deed, > > >> or just "wipe everything and reload". > > >> > > >> 4. you should be able to get your drivers off the manufactures > website as > > >> well, I know I can, and have done so for others. > > >> 5. I am fairly sure that the drivers are quite different, since > I have > > >> seen > > >> driver packages for Linux along with the windows ones on sites > for video > > >> cards and the like, but I don't think they will be included with > the > > >> restore > > >> set. > > >> > > >> HTH, > > >> inthane > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: "tribble" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx> > > >> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 8:36 PM > > >> Subject: Re: lynix question: > > >> > > >> > > >>> Hello -- while we're on the subject of linux -- > > >>> I've never installed linux, but would like to do so on an old > laptop. > > >>> However I don't know the drivers I need or where or how to find > out. > > >>> Windows xp is on it how, but it is in a fractured state in > which jaws > > >>> can't > > >>> work as something has zapped the video driver, and I don't know > where to > > >>> find this driver on the net. (It's a long story -- don't ask > *frowny*). > > >>> I > > >>> can't roll back the OS because that has been disabled in order > to free > > >>> up > > >>> space on the disk. > > >>> > > >>> Does anyone know how to find out what driver I need? Are the > drivers the > > >>> same in windows as they are in linux? (I doubt it, but I am not > a driver > > >>> guru.) > > >>> If linux drivers are different, where can I find them? > > >>> This laptop did not come with recovery CDs, so I assume there > is a > > >>> segment > > >>> reserved on disk to put it back in its initial state, right? > Has anyone > > >>> ever > > >>> done this? I know it would require sighted assistance, but I am > > >>> wondering > > >>> if the fact that I disabled rollbacks might have zapped this > feature as > > >>> well. Does anyone know? > > >>> > > >>> If anyone has any answers I would love to hear them! > > >>> TIA > > >>> --le > > >>> > > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > > >>> From: "Nimer" <nimerjaber1@xxxxxxxxx> > > >>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >>> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 10:17 PM > > >>> Subject: Re: lynix question: > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> The beta is workable, and I recommend that you use the desktop > version. > > >>> It has an accessible installer. > > >>> Thanks > > >>> Nimer J > > >>> > > >>> Nimer M. Jaber > > >>> > > >>> The information transmitted is intended only for the person or > entity to > > >>> which it > > >>> is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged > material. > > >>> Any > > >>> review, > > >>> retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any > action > > >>> in > > >>> reliance > > >>> upon this information by persons or entities other than the > intended > > >>> recipient is > > >>> prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the > sender and > > >>> delete the > > >>> material from any computer. > > >>> > > >>> Website: > > >>> http://www.empowertheblind.org > > >>> Phone: > > >>> (720) (251-4530) > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Charles E. Black wrote: > > >>>> Will I need visual assistance to install it? Is there a way > to load > > >>>> Lynix > > >>>> using speech? Thanks! > > >>>> > > >>>> Charles E. Black > > >>>> 4127 Pinehaven Ct. > > >>>> Columbia, SC 29205 > > >>>> Phone: (803) 790-5586 > > >>>> Cell: (803) 201-0499 > > >>>> Email: charlesblackusc@xxxxxxxxx > > >>>> > > >>>> -----Original Message----- > > >>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > Chris > > >>>> Hallsworth > > >>>> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 12:10 PM > > >>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >>>> Subject: Re: lynix question: > > >>>> > > >>>> All of these, Ubuntu will answer your questions. It has both a > console > > >>>> and > > >>>> a > > >>>> > > >>>> GUI interface. You can get it, free, from www.ubuntu.com. > > >>>> > > >>>> -- > > >>>> Chris Hallsworth > > >>>> e-mail: christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >>>> msn: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx > > >>>> skype: chrishallsworth7266 > > >>>> klango: chrishallsworth > > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > > >>>> From: "Charles E. Black" <charlesblackusc@xxxxxxxxx> > > >>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >>>> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 3:21 PM > > >>>> Subject: lynix question: > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>> Hello: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Is anyone aware of a lynix system that does the following: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> 1. has an built in speech engine? > > >>>>> 2. Can run through a computers speech card? > > >>>>> 3. What type of interface does it have, (console or gui)? > > >>>>> 4. What is it called? > > >>>>> 5. Where can I obtain it? > > >>>>> 6. 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