Re: spelling -- was: Re: lynix question:
- From: "tribble" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 21:13:44 -0500
it is linux. the lynix is pronounced identically by jaws.
jaws is a great spell tester usually as it mispronounces words that are a
little misspelled. But if the word is phonetically spelled and incorrect,
there's no way to catch it without just checking the characters and typing
the correct ones.
Oh well -- back to computing...
--le
----- Original Message -----
From: "The Elf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: spelling -- was: Re: lynix question:
I always believed it was spelled l i n u x myself, hmmm.
of course my spelling is spelled s m e l l i n g, as in it stinks so...
inthane
----- Original Message -----
From: "tribble" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 3:09 PM
Subject: spelling -- was: Re: lynix question:
> Greetings all -- I know it is an idiosyncrasy of the blind community to
> use
> creative spellings of various words. In some cases this is annoying, and
> sometimes funny, sometimes it makes things hard to find because you don't
> know what to search for, and sometimes it makes things easier to find as
> nothing else is spelled quite like it...
> I'd say the word "lynix" comes in that 4th category.
> I'm sorry if I offend anyone but I think it is a good idea -- in computer
> science especially -- to spell words right as sometimes it actually
> matters -- for example, when you say "links", do you mean the "links" web
> browser or the lynx web browser?
> Anyway, happy computing. One thing nice about a screen reader is that it
> lets you stop and take note of spelling. So this is just an annoying
> reminder *running for cover*.
> Cheers.
> --le
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nimer" <nimerjaber1@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 12:41 PM
> Subject: Re: lynix question:
>
>
> Oh, yes, NVDA does not depend on video drivers. I thought we were
> talking about Linux.
> Thanks
> Nimer J
>
> Nimer M. Jaber
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> BlueScale wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Somehow I missed the question about the video driver the first time
>> around. From what I know, NVDA shouldn't depend on a video driver
>> because it uses APIs to get the job done. This means, I think, that
>> it takes direction directly from the operating system and/or the
>> program you are using. There are no video hooks in NVDA.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 23:10 -0600, Nimer wrote:
>>> Most drivers are built in to Linux, and windows drivers are different
>>> than linux drivers.
>>> Thanks
>>> Nimer J
>>>
>>> Nimer M. Jaber
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>>> tribble wrote:
>>> > I have always wanted to try NVDA but never had time. That is a windows
>>> > screen reader however, correct?
>>> > I am wondering if it would work without a video driver.
>>> > How do I know it wouldn't have the same problem as jaws? Don't all
>>> > screen readers need an intact video driver?
>>> > Thanx
>>> > --le
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > *From:* BlueScale <mailto:bluescale1976@xxxxxxx>
>>> > *To:* programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> > <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> > <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> > *Sent:* Sunday, October 26, 2008 10:03 PM
>>> > *Subject:* Re: lynix question:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Hi,
>>> > So, if I followed this thread correctly, you don't have a cd drive
>>> > to run a recovery disk or boot a live Linux CD. Your computer may
>>> > or may not have a recovery system that works, and Jaws won't work
>>> > on it... REmember, when going up the creek it is always best to
>>> > bring a pattle. *grin* Well, I cdan't help much with the Windows
>>> > or Jaws stuff, but here's something that should get you up and
>>> > running in Linux. Ubuntu specifically. First, though, if you
>>> > want a screen reader to help you through the installation, you can
>>> > get NVDA from:
>>> > http://www.nvda-project.org/
>>> > It's free, so no need to worry about having to sell internal
>>> > organs to get a copy. After that, if you still want to try out
>>> > Linux, there's a program called Wubi that allows LUbuntu to be
>>> > installed in Windows. Even though it is installed as a Windows
>>> > program, it is still Ubuntu, you have to restart and press down
>>> > arrow once to get to it. The installer downloads the packages you
>>> > need and installs them. You will need about 10GB of disk space
>>> > you can of course give it more space if you want. Here's the link
>>> > for the Wubi page:
>>> > http://wubi-installer.org/
>>> > It's no more difficult than installing a normal program so you
>>> > don't have to be too tech savvy to get it up and running. After
>>> > trying it briefly, my whole family has switched exclusively to
>>> > Ubuntu.
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 21:39 -0500, tribble wrote:
>>> >> I know, it is F8, but where to go from there is what I don't
>>> >> know.
>>> >> It
>>> >> requires sight, and I have no tech savvy members of my family
>>> >> present.
>>> >> But I'm sure we can figure it out...
>>> >> Hopefully...
>>> >> --le
>>> >>
>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> From: "Stephen S. Disbrow" <info@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> <mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>> >> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>> >> Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 9:30 PM
>>> >> Subject: Re: lynix question:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi,
>>> >> Usually you need to hit an F key while booting to get to such
>>> >> partitions. I have a couple of IBM Think Centers, and that's what
>>> >> you need
>>> >> to do to reload the system from scratch. I just don't
>>> >> rememberwhat
>>> >> the F key
>>> >> is now for them, but your's is probably different anyway.
>>> >>
>>> >> Steve D.
>>> >>
>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> From: "tribble" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx
>>> >> <mailto:lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>> >> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>> >> Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 9:04 PM
>>> >> Subject: Re: lynix question:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> > What I was told is that there is a separate partition or
>>> >> section
>>> >> of the
>>> >> > disk
>>> >> > where the recovery software is located. Running this will
>>> >> reinitialize
>>> >> > everything back to its original state -- zapping all data files
>>> >> in the
>>> >> > process.
>>> >> > I have already backed up the data so I want to use this "ground
>>> >> 0"
>>> >> > program.
>>> >> > I just don't know where to find it or what to look for if I get
>>> >> a
>>> >> > non-tech-savvy sighted family member to help me.
>>> >> > Thanx
>>> >> > --le
>>> >> >
>>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> > From: "The Elf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> <mailto:inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> <mailto:inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>> >> > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>> >> > Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 7:39 PM
>>> >> > Subject: Re: lynix question:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > ok, what I was talking about is my comp, and several others I
>>> >> have seen in
>>> >> > the recent past have a C: drive and a D: drive set up on the
>>> >> hard drive,
>>> >> > then the CD/DVD RW drive is the E: drive, and the files that
>>> >> you
>>> >> could use
>>> >> > for a reformat/reload of the c drive, and for creation of your
>>> >> restore
>>> >> > disks
>>> >> > was in that D drive,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > now, there was a while that they put the files in the windows
>>> >> folder and
>>> >> > folks were supposed to make there disks soon after purchase or
>>> >> risk
>>> >> > loosing
>>> >> > them, but not knowing your comp, I don't know if this was the
>>> >> case.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > sorry I can't assist more,
>>> >> > inthane
>>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> > From: "tribble" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx
>>> >> <mailto:lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>> >> > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>> >> > Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 1:45 PM
>>> >> > Subject: Re: lynix question:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> Inthane, the restore folder no longer exists as I went into
>>> >> system
>>> >> >> performance and disabled rollbacks. This trashes the database
>>> >> of
>>> >> >> snapshots
>>> >> >> and frees up disk space. After doing this dangerous step i
>>> >> found I only
>>> >> >> gained 4gb of free space. *sigh*
>>> >> >> What I want is to find that sector where the recovery files
>>> >> are
>>> >> loaded
>>> >> >> and
>>> >> >> reinitialize the system to its basic state.
>>> >> >> Alas, this will require a sightling present.
>>> >> >> As for the d drive, that only helps if I have a cd to put in
>>> >> it, which I
>>> >> >> don't.
>>> >> >> Happy hacking.
>>> >> >> --le
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> >> From: "The Elf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> <mailto:inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> <mailto:inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>> >> >> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>> >> >> Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 1:36 PM
>>> >> >> Subject: Re: lynix question:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Laura,
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> 1. usually the drivers are available, either in a folder on
>>> >> the
>>> >> C drive
>>> >> >> along with restore files, or more usually now a days, on a D
>>> >> drive of the
>>> >> >> comp.
>>> >> >> 2. no turning off that feature does not ka bosh the reloading
>>> >> >> capabilities.
>>> >> >> 3. usually there is an item in the start menu, often in the
>>> >> system tools
>>> >> >> folder that may look like a second "system restore", and at
>>> >> least on my
>>> >> >> comp, the names almost the same, system reset, which included
>>> >> an
>>> >> >> application
>>> >> >> to create my restore disks, one to load/reload the drivers and
>>> >> certain
>>> >> >> programs like Norton and MacAfee anti-spyware, and a third for
>>> >> a total
>>> >> >> wipe
>>> >> >> and reload of the system with options to "try to save" data
>>> >> and
>>> >> do the
>>> >> >> deed,
>>> >> >> or just "wipe everything and reload".
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> 4. you should be able to get your drivers off the manufactures
>>> >> website as
>>> >> >> well, I know I can, and have done so for others.
>>> >> >> 5. I am fairly sure that the drivers are quite different,
>>> >> since
>>> >> I have
>>> >> >> seen
>>> >> >> driver packages for Linux along with the windows ones on sites
>>> >> for video
>>> >> >> cards and the like, but I don't think they will be included
>>> >> with the
>>> >> >> restore
>>> >> >> set.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> HTH,
>>> >> >> inthane
>>> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> >> From: "tribble" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx
>>> >> <mailto:lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>> >> >> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>> >> >> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 8:36 PM
>>> >> >> Subject: Re: lynix question:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>> Hello -- while we're on the subject of linux --
>>> >> >>> I've never installed linux, but would like to do so on an old
>>> >> laptop.
>>> >> >>> However I don't know the drivers I need or where or how to
>>> >> find out.
>>> >> >>> Windows xp is on it how, but it is in a fractured state in
>>> >> which jaws
>>> >> >>> can't
>>> >> >>> work as something has zapped the video driver, and I don't
>>> >> know where to
>>> >> >>> find this driver on the net. (It's a long story -- don't ask
>>> >> *frowny*).
>>> >> >>> I
>>> >> >>> can't roll back the OS because that has been disabled in
>>> >> order
>>> >> to free
>>> >> >>> up
>>> >> >>> space on the disk.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> Does anyone know how to find out what driver I need? Are the
>>> >> drivers the
>>> >> >>> same in windows as they are in linux? (I doubt it, but I am
>>> >> not a driver
>>> >> >>> guru.)
>>> >> >>> If linux drivers are different, where can I find them?
>>> >> >>> This laptop did not come with recovery CDs, so I assume there
>>> >> is a
>>> >> >>> segment
>>> >> >>> reserved on disk to put it back in its initial state, right?
>>> >> Has anyone
>>> >> >>> ever
>>> >> >>> done this? I know it would require sighted assistance, but I
>>> >> am
>>> >> >>> wondering
>>> >> >>> if the fact that I disabled rollbacks might have zapped this
>>> >> feature as
>>> >> >>> well. Does anyone know?
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> If anyone has any answers I would love to hear them!
>>> >> >>> TIA
>>> >> >>> --le
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> >>> From: "Nimer" <nimerjaber1@xxxxxxxxx
>>> >> <mailto:nimerjaber1@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:nimerjaber1@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>> >> >>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>> >> >>> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 10:17 PM
>>> >> >>> Subject: Re: lynix question:
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> The beta is workable, and I recommend that you use the
>>> >> desktop
>>> >> version.
>>> >> >>> It has an accessible installer.
>>> >> >>> Thanks
>>> >> >>> Nimer J
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> Nimer M. Jaber
>>> >> >>>
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>>> >> entity to
>>> >> >>> which it
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>>> >> material.
>>> >> >>> Any
>>> >> >>> review,
>>> >> >>> retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of
>>> >> any action
>>> >> >>> in
>>> >> >>> reliance
>>> >> >>> upon this information by persons or entities other than the
>>> >> intended
>>> >> >>> recipient is
>>> >> >>> prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the
>>> >> sender and
>>> >> >>> delete the
>>> >> >>> material from any computer.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> Website:
>>> >> >>> http://www.empowertheblind.org
>>> >> >>> Phone:
>>> >> >>> (720) (251-4530)
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> Charles E. Black wrote:
>>> >> >>>> Will I need visual assistance to install it? Is there a way
>>> >> to load
>>> >> >>>> Lynix
>>> >> >>>> using speech? Thanks!
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> Charles E. Black
>>> >> >>>> 4127 Pinehaven Ct.
>>> >> >>>> Columbia, SC 29205
>>> >> >>>> Phone: (803) 790-5586
>>> >> >>>> Cell: (803) 201-0499
>>> >> >>>> Email: charlesblackusc@xxxxxxxxx
>>> >> <mailto:charlesblackusc@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:charlesblackusc@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> >> >>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> <mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> <mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> >>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
>>> >> Chris
>>> >> >>>> Hallsworth
>>> >> >>>> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 12:10 PM
>>> >> >>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> >>>> Subject: Re: lynix question:
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> All of these, Ubuntu will answer your questions. It has both
>>> >> a console
>>> >> >>>> and
>>> >> >>>> a
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> GUI interface. You can get it, free, from www.ubuntu.com
>>> >> <http://www.ubuntu.com> <http://www.ubuntu.com>.
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> --
>>> >> >>>> Chris Hallsworth
>>> >> >>>> e-mail: christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> <mailto:christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> <mailto:christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> >>>> msn: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> <mailto:ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> >>>> skype: chrishallsworth7266
>>> >> >>>> klango: chrishallsworth
>>> >> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> >>>> From: "Charles E. Black" <charlesblackusc@xxxxxxxxx
>>> >> <mailto:charlesblackusc@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> <mailto:charlesblackusc@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>> >> >>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>> >> >>>> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 3:21 PM
>>> >> >>>> Subject: lynix question:
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>>> Hello:
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> Is anyone aware of a lynix system that does the following:
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> 1. has an built in speech engine?
>>> >> >>>>> 2. Can run through a computers speech card?
>>> >> >>>>> 3. What type of interface does it have, (console or gui)?
>>> >> >>>>> 4. What is it called?
>>> >> >>>>> 5. Where can I obtain it?
>>> >> >>>>> 6. How much will it cost?
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> Thanks for any help.
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> Charles E. Black
>>> >> >>>>> 4127 Pinehaven Ct.
>>> >> >>>>> Columbia, SC 29205
>>> >> >>>>> Phone: (803) 790-5586
>>> >> >>>>> Cell: (803) 201-0499
>>> >> >>>>> Email: charlesblackusc@xxxxxxxxx
>>> >> <mailto:charlesblackusc@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:charlesblackusc@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> >>>>>
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