Gosh, and Chris knows that I should know better. Sorry about that blunder. I was on my way out of the house and quickly hit send without doing a review. Chris, thanks for the correction bud. Take care, Sina -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris Hofstader Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 10:35 AM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: sectiob 508 question A slight correction to Sina's comment: Section 508 does not apply to private sector corporations that do not do business with the government. The pending Target case and those that came before (AmericaWest Airlines, MARTA, etc.) used the argument under ADA that says that "all places of public accommodation be made accessible" and the NFB lawyers are claiming that in the information age, a web site is, in fact, a place. A couple of the circuit courts have upheld the web site is a place theory and no one has appealed it to the Supremes yet. While they all have similar sounding language regarding people with disabilities, Section 508, Section 255 (telecommunications act), Section 504 (rehabilitation act but on education and people with disabilities), IDEA and ADA all have their own subtle nuances that make the soup of disability related regs in the US such a mess. There is currently a movement in the US Senate to pass a new ADA that will clarify many of the difficulties and ambiguities with the current version which contains the very nasty word, "reasonable" which is entirely subject to the definition of a judge or jury. You should all write to your congress people and US senators to encourage them to support the "ADA Restoration Act." Off of Soapbox, cdh -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sina Bahram Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 10:04 AM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: sectiob 508 question Even that's not necessarily true anymore. Please see the case against Target in the US for details. Take care, Sina -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Perry Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 9:22 AM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: sectiob 508 question Note that private companies that have nothing to do with the government have nothing to fear if they are a private company and Aare selling to the government tools that will be used on the job in the government then they are affected only if that software will be used by a person with a disability because if a person doesn't complain they will not be hunted. They should be forced by this law to convert even if no one complains but that is not the way the real world works. Ken Ken -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marlon Brandão de Sousa Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 5:54 AM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: sectiob 508 question Agreed but I was asking how it works in the real world and not what is it in theory, cinse I really want to know if it is being applied and if law swites are being applied against private companies based on section 508 or on whatever other law if for example their websites are not accessible. Marlon 2008/4/1, Ken Perry <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > > > This faq explains who it affects and who is exempt. > > http://www.access-board.gov/sec508/brochure.htm > > Ken > -----Original Message----- > From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marlon > Brandão de Sousa > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 10:24 PM > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: sectiob 508 question > > Hi, > Although this does not relate to programming, this does relate to > blind programming. Do you know if section 508 only relates to public > services or if relates also to private services? > Like does section 508 must be applied in sites from private companies > or only the govern sites have to comply with what it says? > Thanks a lot, > Marlon > -- > When you say "I wrote a program that crashed Windows," people just > stare at you blankly and say "Hey, I got those with the system, for free." > Linus Torvalds > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > -- When you say "I wrote a program that crashed Windows," people just stare at you blankly and say "Hey, I got those with the system, for free." 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