Just an added comment .. Many states are individually referring to Section 508 requirements for their state agencies. Here in Florida we have a position paper for our state to conform. IMHO I think any company who provides software/hardware to the federal government must be concerned with 508. If they're smart, business wise, they will foresee that shortly most states will have the law. That's why I think there are real opportunities for Accessibility wise programmers opening up. Arnold On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Sina Bahram <sbahram@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Gosh, and Chris knows that I should know better. Sorry about that blunder. > I > was on my way out of the house and quickly hit send without doing a > review. > > Chris, thanks for the correction bud. > > Take care, > Sina > > -----Original Message----- > From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris > Hofstader > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 10:35 AM > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: RE: sectiob 508 question > > A slight correction to Sina's comment: Section 508 does not apply to > private > sector corporations that do not do business with the government. The > pending Target case and those that came before (AmericaWest Airlines, > MARTA, > etc.) used the argument under ADA that says that "all places of public > accommodation be made accessible" and the NFB lawyers are claiming that in > the information age, a web site is, in fact, a place. A couple of the > circuit courts have upheld the web site is a place theory and no one has > appealed it to the Supremes yet. > > While they all have similar sounding language regarding people with > disabilities, Section 508, Section 255 (telecommunications act), Section > 504 > (rehabilitation act but on education and people with disabilities), IDEA > and > ADA all have their own subtle nuances that make the soup of disability > related regs in the US such a mess. > > There is currently a movement in the US Senate to pass a new ADA that will > clarify many of the difficulties and ambiguities with the current version > which contains the very nasty word, "reasonable" which is entirely subject > to the definition of a judge or jury. You should all write to your > congress > people and US senators to encourage them to support the "ADA Restoration > Act." > > Off of Soapbox, > cdh > > -----Original Message----- > From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sina Bahram > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 10:04 AM > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: RE: sectiob 508 question > > Even that's not necessarily true anymore. > > Please see the case against Target in the US for details. > > Take care, > Sina > > -----Original Message----- > From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Perry > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 9:22 AM > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: RE: sectiob 508 question > > > > Note that private companies that have nothing to do with the government > have > nothing to fear if they are a private company and Aare selling to the > government tools that will be used on the job in the government then they > are affected only if that software will be used by a person with a > disability because if a person doesn't complain they will not be hunted. > They should be forced by this law to convert even if no one complains but > that is not the way the real world works. > > Ken > > Ken > > -----Original Message----- > From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marlon Brandão > de Sousa > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 5:54 AM > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: sectiob 508 question > > Agreed but I was asking how it works in the real world and not what is it > in > theory, cinse I really want to know if it is being applied and if law > swites > are being applied against private companies based on section 508 or on > whatever other law if for example their websites are not accessible. > Marlon > > 2008/4/1, Ken Perry <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > > > > > > This faq explains who it affects and who is exempt. > > > > http://www.access-board.gov/sec508/brochure.htm > > > > Ken > > -----Original Message----- > > From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marlon > > Brandão de Sousa > > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 10:24 PM > > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: sectiob 508 question > > > > Hi, > > Although this does not relate to programming, this does relate to > > blind programming. Do you know if section 508 only relates to public > > services or if relates also to private services? > > Like does section 508 must be applied in sites from private companies > > or only the govern sites have to comply with what it says? > > Thanks a lot, > > Marlon > > -- > > When you say "I wrote a program that crashed Windows," people just > > stare at you blankly and say "Hey, I got those with the system, for > free." > > Linus Torvalds > > __________ > > View the list's information and change your settings at > > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > > > __________ > > View the list's information and change your settings at > > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > > > > > > -- > When you say "I wrote a program that crashed Windows," people just stare > at > you blankly and say "Hey, I got those with the system, for free." > Linus Torvalds > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > > > __________ NOD32 2992 (20080401) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > >