Re: sectiob 508 question

  • From: "Arnold Bailey" <arnoldbail@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 15:31:42 -0400

Just an added comment .. Many states are individually referring to Section
508 requirements for their state agencies. Here in Florida we have a
position paper for our state to conform. IMHO I think any company who
provides software/hardware to the federal government must be concerned with
508. If they're smart, business wise, they will foresee that shortly most
states will have the law. That's why I think there are real opportunities
for Accessibility wise programmers opening up.

Arnold

On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Sina Bahram <sbahram@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Gosh, and Chris knows that I should know better. Sorry about that blunder.
> I
> was on my way out of the house and quickly hit send without doing a
> review.
>
> Chris, thanks for the correction bud.
>
> Take care,
> Sina
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris
> Hofstader
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 10:35 AM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: sectiob 508 question
>
> A slight correction to Sina's comment: Section 508 does not apply to
> private
> sector corporations that do not do business with the government.  The
> pending Target case and those that came before (AmericaWest Airlines,
> MARTA,
> etc.) used the argument under ADA that says that "all places of public
> accommodation be made accessible" and the NFB lawyers are claiming that in
> the information age, a web site is, in fact, a place.  A couple of the
> circuit courts have upheld the web site is a place theory and no one has
> appealed it to the Supremes yet.
>
> While they all have similar sounding language regarding people with
> disabilities, Section 508, Section 255 (telecommunications act), Section
> 504
> (rehabilitation act but on education and people with disabilities), IDEA
> and
> ADA all have their own subtle nuances that make the soup of disability
> related regs in the US such a mess.
>
> There is currently a movement in the US Senate to pass a new ADA that will
> clarify many of the difficulties and ambiguities with the current version
> which contains the very nasty word, "reasonable" which is entirely subject
> to the definition of a judge or jury.  You should all write to your
> congress
> people and US senators to encourage them to support the "ADA Restoration
> Act."
>
> Off of Soapbox,
> cdh
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sina Bahram
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 10:04 AM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: sectiob 508 question
>
> Even that's not necessarily true anymore.
>
> Please see the case against Target in the US for details.
>
> Take care,
> Sina
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Perry
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 9:22 AM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: sectiob 508 question
>
>
>
> Note that private companies that have nothing to do with the government
> have
> nothing to fear if they are a private company and Aare selling to the
> government tools that will be used on the job in the government then they
> are affected only if that software will be used by a person with a
> disability because if a person doesn't complain they will not be hunted.
> They should be forced by this law to convert even if no one complains but
> that is not the way the real world works.
>
> Ken
>
> Ken
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marlon Brandão
> de Sousa
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 5:54 AM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: sectiob 508 question
>
> Agreed but I was asking how it works in the real world and not what is it
> in
> theory, cinse I really want to know if it is being applied and if law
> swites
> are being applied against private companies based on section 508 or on
> whatever other law if for example their websites are not accessible.
> Marlon
>
> 2008/4/1, Ken Perry <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> >
> >
> > This faq explains who it affects and who is exempt.
> >
> > http://www.access-board.gov/sec508/brochure.htm
> >
> > Ken
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marlon
> > Brandão de Sousa
> > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 10:24 PM
> > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: sectiob 508 question
> >
> > Hi,
> > Although this does not relate to programming, this does relate to
> > blind programming. Do you know if section 508 only relates to public
> > services or if relates also to private services?
> > Like does section 508 must be applied in sites from private companies
> > or only the govern sites have to comply with what it says?
> > Thanks a lot,
> > Marlon
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