that was actually a quote from a post by ken Perry. hey ken can you pick this up? elf proprietor, The Grab Bag, for blind computer users and programmers http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of a Alacorn!" www.alacorncomputer.com----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Schulz" <b.schulz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:30 PM Subject: Re: menus and visual basic with jaws
hi, great info. you said: though I find the menu strip accessible as long as you add the .AccessibleRole feature and set it to menu. " can you explain this more? is it code to place somewhere or is it a property setting? Bryan Schulz----- Original Message ----- From: "The Elf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:45 PM Subject: Re: menus and visual basic with jawshere are the assorted steps I have for working on menu's in .net: * first set: working with menu strips in dot net environments:1. Enter the form where you wish the menu strip to be placed. You can dothis by arrowing down in the "Solution Explorer" until your chosen form ishighlighted. Once it is highlighted press enter.2. Go to the toolbox and add a menu strip to your form. You can enter thetoolbox in one of two ways. 1. Press ctrl+alt+x. 2. Press ctrl+w and then after releasing this key combination press x. The menu strip control can be found under the group labeled "Menus and Toolbars". It may be necessary for you to open this group, if so, afterhighlighting the group press the right arrow. When the group is open "MenuStrip" is the third item down under this group. Press enter to place the control on the form. 3. Highlight the menu strip. If you just added the menu strip to your form, and have done nothing else, the menu strip should automatically behighlighted. If it is not highlighted press tab until you here "Menu Strip1". 4. Press your applications key. This is akin to right clicking the menu strip. 5. Arrow down to "Edit Items...", and press enter. 6. Tab to the combo box where it says: "Select Item and Add to List Below".7. Select the type of item you want to add. The option labeled "Menu Item"adds a menu item to your menu strip that will become the different menus such as "File", "Edit", etc. Then tab once to the "Add" button and press enter. The newly added control is now listed in the listbox located justafter the "Add" button and just before the "Remove" button. The newly addedcontrol should be labeled "Tool Strip Menu Item #". The "#" representing how many items you've added that have this name. The last added controlshould be automatically selected. You can arrow up and down to be sure ofthis.8. To set the options for the selected control tab three times. You shouldfind yourself in a list of attributes associated with the selected control.Set these attributes as best suits your application by selecting the attribute you wish to change, tab once and select or type the value you desire for the selected attribute. *NOTE* When you first load Visual Studio the list of attributes is grouped by"Category". However, you may change this organization by tabbing only twicefrom your list of controls to "Categorize Button" and left/right arrowing to"Alphabetical Button". Your screen reader should inform you which of thetwo buttons is currently checked. To check the other one simply press thespacebar once the appropriate button is highlighted. 9. (Optional) If you wish to add menu items beneath the menu you just constructed then arrow through the list of attributes to "Drop Down Items", and then tab twice to "Brows..." and press enter. This will take you into the area to add and edit items within the menu you've recently added. 10. Repeat 6-9 until you have things satisfactory for the menu you areworking on. Then tab to "ok" and press enter. This will return you to theform in stages depending on how many menu levels deep you went *NOTE*Every level of a menu works the same as described above. Steps 6-9 can befollowed no matter the depth of your menus. * set two: someone said that the best option was to install the older menu style, this can be done by: "if you change the MainMenuStrip toMainMenu by doing a search and replace through out the project. Then do asearch and replace for MenuItemStrip and replace with MenuItem. Then youwill get the old stuff. Now I know there is a way to put those two in your tool box to but I am to lazy to because the toolbox fights with me to much. But I have done the above several times for different projects. I will saythough I find the menu strip accessible as long as you add the .AccessibleRole feature and set it to menu. " * end of quotes: HTH, elf proprietor, The Grab Bag, for blind computer users and programmers http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of a Alacorn!" www.alacorncomputer.com----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Hallsworth" <christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 1:02 AM Subject: Re: menus and visual basic with jawsNever found the menu designer to be accessible in my opinion. Guess I could be missing something though.-------------------------------------------------- From: "Marvin Hunkin" <startrekcafe@xxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:48 AM To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: menus and visual basic with jawshi. designing an application with jaws 10. and visual basic express 2008. jaws seems to reads the menus. how can i put a separator between the main menu and the menu items.and then got a another menu, with which is main, then menu group menu, thensub items under that. how to get jaws to read this properly. and is there a way to size the menus. cheers Marvin. ps: never had this trouble when i was using jaws 6.10, or jaws 9. never had this strange behaviour. any one had the same problem. 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