RE: hey ken, Re: menus and visual basic with jaws

  • From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:44:16 -0400


They are property settings the accessible roll and descry stuff.  

Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of The Elf
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 9:32 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: hey ken, Re: menus and visual basic with jaws

that was actually a quote from a post by ken Perry.

hey ken can you pick this up?

elf
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bryan Schulz" <b.schulz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: menus and visual basic with jaws


> hi,
>
> great info.
> you said:
> though I find the menu strip accessible as long as you add the
> .AccessibleRole feature and set it to menu.  "
>
> can you explain this more?
> is it code to place somewhere or is it a property setting?
>
> Bryan Schulz
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "The Elf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:45 PM
> Subject: Re: menus and visual basic with jaws
>
>
>> here are the assorted steps I have for working on menu's in .net:
>> * first set:
>> working with menu strips in dot net environments:
>>
>> 1.  Enter the form where you wish the menu strip to be placed.  You can 
>> do
>>
>> this by arrowing down in the "Solution Explorer" until your chosen form 
>> is
>>
>> highlighted.  Once it is highlighted press enter.
>>
>> 2.  Go to the toolbox and add a menu strip to your form.  You can enter 
>> the
>>
>> toolbox in one of two ways.
>>
>> 1.  Press ctrl+alt+x.
>>
>> 2.  Press ctrl+w and then after releasing this key combination press x.
>>
>> The menu strip control can be found under the group labeled "Menus and
>>
>> Toolbars".  It may be necessary for you to open this group, if so, after
>>
>> highlighting the group press the right arrow.  When the group is open 
>> "Menu
>>
>> Strip" is the third item down under this group.  Press enter to place the
>>
>> control on the form.
>>
>> 3.  Highlight the menu strip.  If you just added the menu strip to your
>>
>> form, and have done nothing else, the menu strip should automatically be
>>
>> highlighted.  If it is not highlighted press tab until you here "Menu 
>> Strip
>>
>> 1".
>>
>> 4.  Press your applications key.  This is akin to right clicking the menu
>>
>> strip.
>>
>> 5.  Arrow down to "Edit Items...", and press enter.
>>
>> 6.  Tab to the combo box where it says:  "Select Item and Add to List
>>
>> Below".
>>
>> 7.  Select the type of item you want to add.  The option labeled "Menu 
>> Item"
>>
>> adds a menu item to your menu strip that will become the different menus
>>
>> such as "File", "Edit", etc.  Then tab once to the "Add" button and press
>>
>> enter.  The newly added control is now listed in the listbox located just
>>
>> after the "Add" button and just before the "Remove" button.  The newly 
>> added
>>
>> control should be labeled "Tool Strip Menu Item #".  The "#" representing
>>
>> how many items you've added that have this name.  The last added control
>>
>> should be automatically selected.  You can arrow up and down to be sure 
>> of
>>
>> this.
>>
>> 8.  To set the options for the selected control tab three times.  You 
>> should
>>
>> find yourself in a list of attributes associated with the selected 
>> control.
>>
>> Set these attributes as best suits your application by selecting the
>>
>> attribute you wish to change, tab once and select or type the value you
>>
>> desire for the selected attribute.
>>
>> *NOTE*
>>
>> When you first load Visual Studio the list of attributes is grouped by
>>
>> "Category".  However, you may change this organization by tabbing only 
>> twice
>>
>> from your list of controls to "Categorize Button" and left/right arrowing

>> to
>>
>> "Alphabetical Button".  Your screen reader should inform you which of the
>>
>> two buttons is currently checked.  To check the other one simply press 
>> the
>>
>> spacebar once the appropriate button is highlighted.
>>
>> 9.  (Optional)
>>
>> If you wish to add menu items beneath the menu you just constructed then
>>
>> arrow through the list of attributes to "Drop Down Items", and then tab
>>
>> twice to "Brows..." and press enter.  This will take you into the area to
>>
>> add and edit items within the menu you've recently added.
>>
>> 10.  Repeat 6-9 until you have things satisfactory for the menu you are
>>
>> working on.  Then tab to "ok" and press enter.  This will return you to 
>> the
>>
>> form in stages depending on how many menu levels deep you went
>>
>> *NOTE*
>>
>> Every level of a menu works the same as described above.  Steps 6-9 can 
>> be
>>
>> followed no
>>
>> matter the depth of your menus.
>>
>>
>>
>> * set two:
>>
>> someone said that the best option was to install the older menu style,
>>
>>
>>
>> this can be done by:
>> "if you change the MainMenuStrip to
>> MainMenu by doing a search and replace through out the project.  Then do 
>> a
>> search and replace for MenuItemStrip and replace with MenuItem.  Then you
>> will get the old stuff.  Now I know there is a way to put those two in 
>> your
>> tool box to but I am to lazy to because the toolbox fights with me to 
>> much.
>> But I have done the above several times for different projects.  I will 
>> say
>> though I find the menu strip accessible as long as you add the
>> .AccessibleRole feature and set it to menu.  "
>>
>>
>>
>> * end of quotes:
>>
>>
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>> elf
>>
>> proprietor, The Grab Bag,
>> for blind computer users and programmers
>> http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
>> Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
>> "own the might and majesty of a Alacorn!"
>> www.alacorncomputer.com
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Chris Hallsworth" <christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 1:02 AM
>> Subject: Re: menus and visual basic with jaws
>>
>>
>>> Never found the menu designer to be accessible in my opinion. Guess I 
>>> could be missing something though.
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Marvin Hunkin" <startrekcafe@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:48 AM
>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: menus and visual basic with jaws
>>>
>>>> hi.
>>>> designing an application with jaws 10.
>>>> and visual basic express 2008.
>>>> jaws seems to reads the menus.
>>>> how can i put a separator between the main menu and the menu items.
>>>> and then got a another menu, with which is main, then menu group menu, 
>>>> then
>>>> sub items under that.
>>>> how to get jaws to read this properly.
>>>> and is there a way to size the menus.
>>>> cheers Marvin.
>>>> ps: never had this trouble when i was using jaws 6.10, or jaws 9.
>>>> never had this strange behaviour.
>>>> any one had the same problem.
>>>> I have the visual studio scripts installed.
>>>>
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