In perl you can write the entire program in a single line. You can even write the program in the command line. Can you do that with python?
In perl you can split an expression on more lines and it will work. Can you do the same thing with python?
In perl you can indent the code with more or less spaces, whatever you like, or you can not indent the code at all. But you can't do that with python.
Generally in perl you can do the same thing in very many ways, while in python you are forced to do it in the single accepted way, and that's why I don't like it.
Octavian----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 5:30 AM Subject: RE: ewby on programming need some tips and tricks
What the heck are you talking about strict? There is only one otherlanguage that even comes close to being less strict and that would be pearland I am not sure it is. Ken -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Octavian RasnitaSent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 4:36 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: ewby on programming need some tips and tricks Well, not only the indentation makes me not like python, but also the fact that it is too strict, that it doesn't let you to create and arrange the code how you like. Java/C#/perl programs can be written even in a single line of code if the programmer wants that, and if the code is correct, it will run fine. Maybethere could be a few things that should be written in separate lines, but Ilike to be able to arrange the code how I like. Octavian----- Original Message ----- From: "Jared Wright" <wright.jaredm@xxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 9:05 PM Subject: Re: ewby on programming need some tips and tricksTeddy has a great fear of the indentation requirements in Python's sintax.Needless to say, I also would disagree with his dismissing it out of hand.JW Nick Stockton wrote:Hmmm why do you say python is "one of the least friendly programming languages for the blind"? I started learning python a month or so ago and in around a week I had written a program complete with a GUI and install wizard that looks up barcodes on bcscan.com and will automatically speak the output using the jfw and wineyes com objects as well as putting the output in a read-only edit box and automatically setting focus to it so the output can be reviewed with the up and down arrows. I also made a button to pull up the edit page on bcscan.com for the item you scanned in your default web browser so you can add or edit the item info. I also made hotkeys ALT-b to set focus to the barcode entry edit box, ALT-o to set focus to the output and alt-e to activate the add/edit button. All this from me, a python newbie who doesn't know any other programming language in just over a week! And what you might ask is my secret? Three things: The python tutorial at python.org, the speakup screen reader under gnu/linux and my most secret weapon of all... google. Nick Stockton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 2:58 AM Subject: Re: ewby on programming need some tips and tricksNo I don't recommend perl if is needed to create that kind of program. Perl is the best for web apps which are not very simple, and it is alsogood for desktop apps that require some specific things that can be doneusing some CPAN modules, because that way the coder won't need to do very low-level programming as he might need to do with languages like Java or python. If the program is just one that should be used by a single person, and if it doesn't need to be portable, and if it doesn't require very complicated things, I would also recommend C#. I don't like VB.net though. :-) Anyway, from the perspective of accessibility and responsiveness, the best choice is no doubt C++ with MFC, but it is much harder to create a program with C++/MFC than with DotNet, so DotNet is now prefered. Of course, Java with SWT could be also a solution, but unfortunately there is no accessible forms designer for the blind for creating programs with SWT like with DotNet. And python is one of the least friendly programming language for the blind so of course I can't recommend it. Octavian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 4:17 AM Subject: Re: ewby on programming need some tips and tricksI would recommend c# or vb.net. Teddy will no doubt recommend perl, but I think vb.net or c# would be the best for you Thanks, Tyler Littlefield email: tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx web: tysdomain-com Visit for quality software and web design. skype: st8amnd2005 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jose Lomeli" <jose.lomeli93@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 11:18 PM Subject: e: ewby on programming need some tips and tricksI am thinking of using python or vb6 or any other ones. I want to create a checkings and savings program. Please write back. From Jose Lomeli.----- Original Message ----- From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date sent: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 19:04:17 -0700 Subject: Re: ewby on programming need some tips and trickshello, first we need to decide what language your going to use. anyideas?What kind of programs do you want to write?Thanks, Tyler Littlefield email: tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx web: tysdomain-com Visit for quality software and web design. skype: st8amnd2005----- Original Message ----- From: "Jose Lomeli" <jose.lomeli93@xxxxxxxxxxx To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 10:57 PM Subject: ewby on programming need some tips and tricksHello; Listers, I am new to programming and I want to startdoingthis. What are some tips and tricks I should know about andwhatprogram do I use for this and where can I download it? Please write back. 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