I know that there are libraries, like wxWidgets, and I've made programs with it, but those libraries don't offer full accessibility for all the widgets that they can create, or they offer a small number of widgets, like in case of SWT for example.
I said MFC, but actually the best accessible programs use only the Win32 standard GUI widgets which is wrapped by MFC and is usually used. Using other libraries increase the size of the program and most of the time the portability is not needed.
Well, of course, by "accessible" each one can understand what he wants. For example, by "most accessible" I understand the most accessible program with Jaws, because in my opinion Jaws is still the best screen reader, even though I am forced to still use version 6.0 cause the newer versions can't read UTF-8 chars correctly.
I have tried other screen readers like Window Eyes, but it has a very ugly interface so I don't like it, and a few other free screen readers that were made recently, but they are very slow so I also don't like them. I have also tried to use Linux with Orca, but the accessibility is very very poor, so when I test a program from the point of view of accessibility, I test it with Jaws.
Win32 standard GUI is not more accessible than other interfaces because it is better, but because Jaws support it better than it supports other interfaces. That's all. So the inaccessible programs for us are not worse than other programs, but it just happend that they use a GUI which was not made accessible by FS. Of course, there are some really bad GUIS that can't be made accessible, but that's other story.
Octavian----- Original Message ----- From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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why mfc? there are libraries that wrap the windows (controls and such) up. if you wanted portability, I'd say go with one of those because it is cross platform, IIRC.Thanks, Tyler Littlefield email: tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx web: tysdomain-com Visit for quality software and web design. skype: st8amnd2005----- Original Message ----- From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 12:58 AM Subject: Re: ewby on programming need some tips and tricksNo I don't recommend perl if is needed to create that kind of program.Perl is the best for web apps which are not very simple, and it is also good for desktop apps that require some specific things that can be done using some CPAN modules, because that way the coder won't need to do very low-level programming as he might need to do with languages like Java or python.If the program is just one that should be used by a single person, and if it doesn't need to be portable, and if it doesn't require very complicated things, I would also recommend C#. I don't like VB.net though. :-)Anyway, from the perspective of accessibility and responsiveness, the best choice is no doubt C++ with MFC, but it is much harder to create a program with C++/MFC than with DotNet, so DotNet is now prefered.Of course, Java with SWT could be also a solution, but unfortunately there is no accessible forms designer for the blind for creating programs with SWT like with DotNet.And python is one of the least friendly programming language for the blind so of course I can't recommend it.Octavian----- Original Message ----- From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 4:17 AM Subject: Re: ewby on programming need some tips and tricksI would recommend c# or vb.net.Teddy will no doubt recommend perl, but I think vb.net or c# would be the best for youThanks, Tyler Littlefield email: tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx web: tysdomain-com Visit for quality software and web design. skype: st8amnd2005----- Original Message ----- From: "Jose Lomeli" <jose.lomeli93@xxxxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 11:18 PM Subject: e: ewby on programming need some tips and tricksI am thinking of using python or vb6 or any other ones. I want to create a checkings and savings program. Please write back.From Jose Lomeli.----- Original Message ----- From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date sent: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 19:04:17 -0700 Subject: Re: ewby on programming need some tips and trickshello, first we need to decide what language your going to use. anyideas?What kind of programs do you want to write?Thanks, Tyler Littlefield email: tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx web: tysdomain-com Visit for quality software and web design. skype: st8amnd2005----- Original Message ----- From: "Jose Lomeli" <jose.lomeli93@xxxxxxxxxxx To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 10:57 PM Subject: ewby on programming need some tips and tricksHello; Listers, I am new to programming and I want to startdoingthis. What are some tips and tricks I should know about andwhatprogram do I use for this and where can I download it? Please write back. From Jose Lomeli. __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind__________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind__________View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind__________View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind__________View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind__________View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind
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