Re: Windows 7 64 bit and Java Access Bridge
- From: Alex Midence <alex.midence@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 03:10:08 -0600
Only if you use Window Eyes. Jaws users still rely on the java access bridge.
alex M
On 12/14/10, Katherine Moss <plymouthroamer285@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> It already is because of the JAC project.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andreas Stefik
> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 2:13 PM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Windows 7 64 bit and Java Access Bridge
>
> It's a file sharing program. Really though, there are lots and lots of great
> Java programs out there that can only be accessed, currently, with the Java
> Access Bridge. I suspect, however, that JAB will be replaced within a year
> or two by something third party.
>
> Stefik
>
> On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Stanzel, Susan - Kansas City, MO
> <susan.stanzel@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> What is limewire?
>>
>> Susie
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Perry
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 7:53 AM
>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: RE: Windows 7 64 bit and Java Access Bridge
>>
>> Ell one is limewire didn't work with out access bridge.
>>
>> Ken
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stanzel,
>> Susan - Kansas City, MO
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 8:27 AM
>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: RE: Windows 7 64 bit and Java Access Bridge
>>
>> For example, what Java applications might I be wanting to use?
>>
>> Susie Stanzel
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Perry
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 7:12 AM
>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: RE: Windows 7 64 bit and Java Access Bridge
>>
>> Nope it is to make it so you can use Java applications with GUI's in
>> Jaws and other screen readers.
>>
>> Ken
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stanzel,
>> Susan - Kansas City, MO
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 7:37 AM
>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: RE: Windows 7 64 bit and Java Access Bridge
>>
>> What do you need the access bridge for? I had thought it was only for
>> programming Java using swing.
>>
>> Susie Stanzel
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerneels
>> Roos
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 2:21 AM
>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: Windows 7 64 bit and Java Access Bridge
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've never heard of the so called Java Access Client. The only
>> technologies I'm aware of that provides accessibility feedback to the
>> operating system (on Windows) are the Java Access Bridge and the We4J,
>> or We4Java script system for Windows Eyes. Is there anything else
> available?
>>
>> My experience has been that the JAB functions the best with NVDA when
>> compared to older JAWS versions (8.0). For more recent JAWS versions
>> the situation might be different but people tend to recommend using
>> Open Office with NVDA rather than even recent JAWS versions (for example).
>>
>> I would imagine the Java Accessibility API is pretty cool since you
>> get excellent results on Linux with Open Office (RE accessibility), so
>> there is no reason why the same could not be done on Windows. What
>> *bridge* system / software is the glue on Linux? Is it I2A?
>>
>> The current problem with the JAB auto installer for Windows is trivial
>> -- it only needs to be changed to make use of the new style "Program
>> Files" directories for 32 and 64 bit respectively, hence an auto
>> install is a simple process consisting of only these things:
>> - copying the JAR files to the lib\ext\ directory of your active JRE,
>> - renaming the jaccess-1_4.jar to jaccess.jar from that same lib\ext\
>> directory,
>> - copying the accessibility.properties file to the lib\ directory of
>> your active JRE,
>> - copying the three DLL files to the System32, SysWOW64 and bin
>> directories,
>> - making sure your PATH system environment variable includes the
>> System32, SysWOW64 and bin directory of your JRE
>>
>> Someone apt at install shields could perhaps re package the manual
>> install files for the JAB into a new, updated auto installer for Win
>> Vista and up?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Kerneels
>>
>> On 12/14/2010 5:43 AM, Andreas Stefik wrote:
>>> Katherine,
>>>
>>> A quick google search for Java Access Client didn't reveal much. Have
>>> a
>> link?
>>>
>>> Stefik
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Bbt Bbt<bbt.sunbear@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> Hi Kerneels,
>>>> I am using Windows 64 bit. I don't doubt it runs fine in Windows 32 bit.
>>>> Katherine, I know this is going to be a stupid question, but what is
>>>> the Java access client you talked about ? I am not a Java person, so
>>>> if this
>> is
>>>> what someone needs to get Windows 64bit to run Java Access bridge,
>>>> where
>> do
>>>> I get it ? I have another Windows 7 64bit machine to make work with
>>>> NVDA
>> and
>>>> Open office, so any hints to make the process easier, as you implied
>> would
>>>> be gratefully received,
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Britta
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Kerneels Roos<kerneels@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>>>> Hi, Only saw this post now. I don't have a system environment
>>>>> vairiable named ORACLE_OEM_CLASSPATH pointing to the two jar files
>>>>> as described
>> below,
>>>>> but everything works fine on system (Win 7 32 bit). Where did you
>>>>> read
>> about
>>>>> this system env var? Is this the new CLASSPATH env var?
>>>>>
>>>>> The solution on my system was to follow the instructions but to
>>>>> also
>> copy
>>>>> the 3 dll files to System32, SysWOW64 and the bin dir of the JRE
>>>>> you are using (first JRE in PATH -- first java.exe the system comes
> across).
>>>>>
>>>>> See my previous post on this topic for more detail.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/2/2010 9:59 PM, Bbt Bbt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi List,
>>>>> The instructions on the Oracle website don't seem complete to make
>>>>> Java Access Bridge run on Windows 7 64bit. Here's how I got Java
>>>>> Access
>> Bridge to
>>>>> work. I hope this may help someone, as Ispent 2 days figuring this out.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you want to use NVDA and Open Office on Windows 7, these are the
>>>>> missing steps in the instructions :
>>>>>
>>>>> step 1 I tried to unzip the jaccess file in the manual zip file but
>>>>> got
>> an
>>>>> error message. jaccess.jar file was therefore missing from the
>>>>> manual install.zip file for me. You have to get jaccess.jar by
>>>>> copying it from
>> a
>>>>> Windows XP machine, which is what I did or download it from someone
>>>>> who
>> has
>>>>> it.
>>>>>
>>>>> step 2 the instructions don't tell you that you need to put a
>>>>> system variable called ORACLE_OEM_CLASSPATH in with the paths to
>>>>> jaccess.jar
>> and
>>>>> access-bridge.jar.In Windows 7 case that will be C:\Program Files
>>>>> (x86)\Java\jdk1.6.0_22\jre\lib\ext\jaccess.jar and C:\Program Files
>>>>> (x86)\Java\jdk1.6.0_22\jre\lib\ext\access-bridge.jar
>>>>> The other steps are at at
>>>>> www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/documentation/setup-139055.html
>>>>>
>>>>> navigate to the 64 bit windows manual install instructions on the page.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Britta
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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