RE: Windows 7 64 bit and Java Access Bridge

  • From: "Harmony Neil" <harmonylm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 19:21:51 -0000

It used to be a music download service.

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[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stanzel, Susan -
Kansas City, MO
Sent: 14 December 2010 17:59
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Subject: RE: Windows 7 64 bit and Java Access Bridge

What is limewire?

Susie

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[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Perry
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 7:53 AM
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Subject: RE: Windows 7 64 bit and Java Access Bridge

Ell one is limewire didn't work with out access bridge.

Ken

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Kansas City, MO
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For example, what Java applications might I be wanting to use?

Susie Stanzel

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[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Perry
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Nope it is to make it so you can use Java applications with GUI's in Jaws
and other screen readers.

Ken

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Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 7:37 AM
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Subject: RE: Windows 7 64 bit and Java Access Bridge

What do you need the access bridge for? I had thought it was only for
programming Java using swing.

Susie Stanzel

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[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerneels Roos
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 2:21 AM
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Subject: Re: Windows 7 64 bit and Java Access Bridge

Hi,

I've never heard of the so called Java Access Client. The only 
technologies I'm aware of that provides accessibility feedback to the 
operating system (on Windows) are the Java Access Bridge and the We4J, 
or We4Java script system for Windows Eyes. Is there anything else available?

My experience has been that the JAB functions the best with NVDA when 
compared to older JAWS versions (8.0). For more recent JAWS versions the 
situation might be different but people tend to recommend using Open 
Office with NVDA rather than even recent JAWS versions (for example).

I would imagine the Java Accessibility API is pretty cool since you get 
excellent results on Linux with Open Office (RE accessibility), so there 
is no reason why the same could not be done on Windows. What *bridge* 
system / software is the glue on Linux? Is it I2A?

The current problem with the JAB auto installer for Windows is trivial 
-- it only needs to be changed to make use of the new style "Program 
Files" directories for 32 and 64 bit respectively, hence an auto install 
is a simple process consisting of only these things:
- copying the JAR files to the lib\ext\ directory of your active JRE,
- renaming the jaccess-1_4.jar to jaccess.jar from that same lib\ext\ 
directory,
- copying the accessibility.properties file to the lib\ directory of 
your active JRE,
- copying the three DLL files to the System32, SysWOW64 and bin directories,
- making sure your PATH system environment variable includes the 
System32, SysWOW64 and bin directory of your JRE

Someone apt at install shields could perhaps re package the manual 
install files for the JAB into a new, updated auto installer for Win 
Vista and up?

Regards,
Kerneels

On 12/14/2010 5:43 AM, Andreas Stefik wrote:
> Katherine,
>
> A quick google search for Java Access Client didn't reveal much. Have a
link?
>
> Stefik
>
> On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Bbt Bbt<bbt.sunbear@xxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
>> Hi Kerneels,
>> I am using Windows 64 bit. I don't doubt it runs fine in Windows 32 bit.
>> Katherine, I know this is going to be a stupid question, but what is the
>> Java access client you talked about ? I am not a Java person, so if this
is
>> what someone needs to get Windows 64bit to run Java Access bridge, where
do
>> I get it ? I have another Windows 7 64bit machine to make work with NVDA
and
>> Open office, so any hints to make the process easier, as you implied
would
>> be gratefully received,
>> Thanks,
>> Britta
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Kerneels Roos<kerneels@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
>>> Hi, Only saw this post now. I don't have a system environment vairiable
>>> named ORACLE_OEM_CLASSPATH pointing to the two jar files as described
below,
>>> but everything works fine on system (Win 7 32 bit). Where did you read
about
>>> this system env var? Is this the new CLASSPATH env var?
>>>
>>> The solution on my system was to follow the instructions but to also
copy
>>> the 3 dll files to System32, SysWOW64 and the bin dir of the JRE you are
>>> using (first JRE in PATH -- first java.exe the system comes across).
>>>
>>> See my previous post on this topic for more detail.
>>>
>>> On 12/2/2010 9:59 PM, Bbt Bbt wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi List,
>>> The instructions on the Oracle website don't seem complete to make Java
>>> Access Bridge run on Windows 7 64bit. Here's how I got Java Access
Bridge to
>>> work. I hope this may help someone, as Ispent 2 days figuring this out.
>>>
>>> If you want to use NVDA and Open Office on Windows 7, these are the
>>> missing steps in the instructions :
>>>
>>> step 1 I tried to unzip the jaccess file in the manual zip file but got
an
>>> error message. jaccess.jar file was therefore missing from the manual
>>> install.zip file for me. You have to get jaccess.jar by copying it from
a
>>> Windows XP machine, which is what I did or download it from someone who
has
>>> it.
>>>
>>> step 2 the instructions don't tell you that you need to put a system
>>> variable called ORACLE_OEM_CLASSPATH in with the paths to jaccess.jar
and
>>> access-bridge.jar.In Windows 7 case that will be C:\Program Files
>>> (x86)\Java\jdk1.6.0_22\jre\lib\ext\jaccess.jar and C:\Program Files
>>> (x86)\Java\jdk1.6.0_22\jre\lib\ext\access-bridge.jar
>>> The other steps are at at
>>> www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/documentation/setup-139055.html
>>>
>>> navigate to the 64 bit windows manual install instructions on the page.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> regards,
>>>
>>> Britta
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Kerneels Roos
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>>> Skype: cornelis.roos
>>>
>>> "If one has the talent it pushes for utterance and torments one; it will
>>> out; and then one is out with it without questioning. And, look you,
there
>>> is nothing in this thing of learning out of books. Here, here and here
>>> (pointing to his ear, his head and his heart) is your school. If
everything
>>> is right there, then take your pen and down with it; afterward ask the
>>> opinion of a man who knows his business."
>>>
>>> (To a musically talented boy who asked Mozart how one might learn to
>>> compose.)
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Kerneels Roos
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Skype: cornelis.roos

"If one has the talent it pushes for utterance and torments one; it will
out; and then one is out with it without questioning. And, look you, there
is nothing in this thing of learning out of books. Here, here and here
(pointing to his ear, his head and his heart) is your school. If everything
is right there, then take your pen and down with it; afterward ask the
opinion of a man who knows his business."

(To a musically talented boy who asked Mozart how one might learn to
compose.)

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