Thanks again Sina:I will visit them all and learn what this old brain can absorb from each of them.
See you on the flip side: Rick USA----- Original Message ----- From: "Sina Bahram" <sbahram@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 4:01 PM Subject: RE: Neural Network Programming Overview Question
There are probably millions of lines of lisp you can pull from for libraries and things of that nature for neural networks of varying types and flavors.Please note that's equivalent, literally, to hundreds of millions of lines of code of C# or other lesser languages, *smile*. Here are some random, and not so random links below. An interesting guy who has done research related to what you're asking about. http://www.idsia.ch/~juergen/ A common strategy, and one of the few that actually has a chance in my opinion, is evolutionary techniques that evolve neural networks. To that end, here you go.Neurocomputing : Neural network construction and training using grammaticalevolution: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6V10-4S1C894-3&_us er=10&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&view=c&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_us erid=10&md5=9736cb76398111c4e1306f5d31ec18de Watch out if links wrap ... That one's a long one, for example. Using multi-agents to predict the stock market evolution based on fundamentalist analysis and fuzzy-neural networks http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1366414 Designing neural networks using genetic algorithms: http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/showciting;jsessionid=6F2C4C9E46A26B6323421B306 2D5B2F2?cid=65706 Here's a general collection that might be useful: Keith Price Bibliography New Unsorted Entries, and Other Miscellaneous Papers Comparison of artificial intelligence & machine learning algorithms as a predictor of surgical outcomes in benign prostatic hperlasia cases (BPH): http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=14046882 An Analysis of Factors Directing the Admission Process of Artificial Intelligence Technologies http://dbpubs.stanford.edu:8090/pub/1995-16 Note: I think that last one has the full text available. Stock Market Modeling Using Genetic Programming Ensembles http://www.springerlink.com/content/w061315720425n76/ Connectionism http://www.linuxselfhelp.com/HOWTO/AI-Alife-HOWTO-3.html Now for some code related links: Common-Lisp.net http://common-lisp.net/ C liki wiki: http://www.cliki.net/index The Common Lisp Open Code Collection (CLOCC) http://clocc.sourceforge.net/ The common lisp hyperspec, this is most likely the most important link out of the whole bunch: http://www.lispworks.com/documentation/HyperSpec/index.html Tour de Lisp http://tourdelisp.blogspot.com/2008/01/common-lisp-libraries-victims-of-driv e.html Read the comments on that site, too. Anyways, hope that helps. Take care, Sina ________________________________ From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ricks Place Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 2:53 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Neural Network Programming Overview Question Hi Guys: See if this sounds right: A neural network may be any of several types.(models) MLP FeedForward, BiDirectional models and many other Dynamic variations. Inputs can be Filtered, weighted and tuned using Back-Propagation, Genetics, Fuzzy Logic and Chaos Methods which seem to be the ones best suited to Stock Market and Asset Allocation based on Technicals and fundementals. LISP is the programming language of choice for most programmers in the AI field but is not supported in Visual Studio. If I hand code I would have to code all of the models of a given network if I wanted to evaluate each model's effectivness in prediction of optimum Asset Allocation or Market Timing. There may, or not, be modules, dlls? out there for Back-Propagation, Genetics and Fuzzy Logic I could use in a home grown LISP application. There might be some LISP based development environments for developing Neural Networks available with embedded heavy math functions already set up to apply against inputs for a LISP application. Otherwise I would have to design and code them. Do I have a generalized overview of the situation? I am trying to decide on developing in LISP using just a LISP environment, a specialized environment, a plug in for developing NNs in Visual Studio, a Stand Alone system like NeuroShell or something else like just subscribing to a service for investing using the NeuroShell models. Thanks Guys - this is really big time and I think I am just out of my league but want to see if I have the general ideas before making any initial decision costing allot of time, money or both. Rick USA __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind
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