Hi. doing a example project, where i have to have several menus. and having several menu strips, and found a easier way to add tool strip items, whitout having to route jaws to pc cursur, find the type here. what you do, is drop a menustrip control, type the initial value like &File. then you hit f 4, go to the drop down and select collection. then you hit the browse button, and there is a combo box to add to menu items. and it adds it as toolstripmenuitem1, and then you select the toolstrip item, then tab to the properties area, where you can add a name, and a text value,and it works. just doing a project, where you have to select a combo box and a list box, and then have a file menu selection, with a series of print options, for a coffee shop, select the flavors from a combo box, then select the coffee syrup from a list box. did the labels, and the combo box, and list box and added the values, in the property window, and put in the text, but when i ran the program and hit the menu key, when it said menu, it highlighted or selected the combo box. so doing it this way, put the menus and menu items first, and have tested it. works, and got a file menu, with the list of print choices. and then putting multiple menustrips for edit, and help. so thought i would pass this tip on, and does take a while to set up everything, but it is worth it in the end. cheers Marvin. ps: using Visual Basic 2008 Express Version with Jaws 10, on a Windows Vista Home Premium toshiba Satellite a300 __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind