Hi. well, got my menus, side by side, and got it working! and the menu items, undeneath each other! what a bloody pain! took me at least an hour, or more, at least 3 or 4 goes, and this time, it did it. cheers Marvin. ps: hopefully the combo box, and list box, will not play up and be a pain. and have to change the menu name, got it Selected and will change it to file in the text property. __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind