Re: Important: Direction

  • From: "inthane" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 14:51:56 -0700

thank you for agreeing with me *sad smile* unfortunately it seems its to late 
already!

a friend called me cause he herd yelling that sounded like me, and he lives 
three blocks away

8 years, 8 years destroyed

so so damn sad
elf
you know, my grab bag site was born out of the old blind programming site 
needing someone to handle some things they didn't have room or scope for, I was 
the second one to put the VS.net scripts up, I already had the VB6 scripts up 
there along with the add ins for VS 2002 and so much more
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Katherine Moss 
  To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 10:55 AM
  Subject: RE: Important: Direction


  Thank God somebody finally said that.  

   

  From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of inthane
  Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 1:53 PM
  To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: Re: Important: Direction

   

  I can answer that, none, its only going to cause problems and destroy a 
community

   

  elf

  . Moderator, Blind Access Help.
  . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
   "own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
  www.alacorncomputer.com
  . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
   for blind computer users and Programmers!
  http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com

    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: Littlefield, Tyler 

    To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

    Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 11:16 AM

    Subject: Re: Important: Direction

     

    >>What is the reason for merging the lists? You said so that there is only 
one list for programming for the blind. I take it to be consolidation, >>then?  
    >JB: Yes.   
    My question is why? What problem exists that this is going to solve?

    On 8/29/2011 12:04 PM, Jeff Bishop wrote: 

    See comments below: 

      

    Here are a few off the top of my head: (I'm sure there are others) 

      

    How will the transition take place? Subscribe from one, unsubscribe from 
another? A true merger? 

      

    JB: We will work with FreeLists and move the users that are not on 
program-l to the new list from this list. Users shouldn't need to do anything 
but as stated things will move very slowly and constant communication will be 
maintained on the list. 

      

    How is conflict resolution handled E.G. duplicate sign-ups? What about 
folks who are already subscribed to both lists with the same address, or maybe 
with different addresses? 

      

    JB: If they have two separate addresses they will need to manually 
unsubscribe one. I don't see an easy way to determine this. 

      

    What about rules? What are the significant rule changes between this list 
and program. Does that in any way change in the new list, etc.? 

      

    JB: I will discuss this further with George but I believe his open style 
will be fine for this list but will take care of discussing this situation with 
him and post feedback to the list. 

      

    What happens with traffic? Is the list traffic going to double? Note: this 
is an exponential number scaled by percentages. In another words, you could 
claim that 15% of members post 10% of the time, but once you grow those 
members, then this number scales up quickly. The practical concern here is the 
fallout of that percentage math. For example, will 20 posts a day shoot up to 
50, 60? Stay at 20? What? 

      

    JB: This is not something I can easily determine unfortunately. 

      

    Why wasn't this discussed on the list before the decision was just made. 
Jamal had some input, and apparently a few others, but only now, after some 
folks are threatening to leave, or are leaving, is it only getting discussed? 

      

    JB: My mistake and I will take the heat for that. Leave if you must but I 
think 60 days notice is nothing more then fair. 

      

    What is the reason for merging the lists? You said so that there is only 
one list for programming for the blind. I take it to be consolidation, then? 

      

    JB: Yes. 

      

    Thanks much 

      

    Take care, 

    Sina 

      

      

      

      

      

    From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff Bishop
    Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 1:08 PM
    To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: Important: Direction 

    Hello Everyone, 

    A couple of people have expressed concern about merging the two lists. I 
will review input from all list members sent from now until next Monday. 

    Send your feedback now and I will give everyone an update next Tuesday 
morning. 

    Jeff Bishop 






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