I am using a screen reader, namely Jaws for windows from freedomscientific. Yes, I will write a short eclipse tutorial.----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Midence" <alex.midence@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 9:46 PM Subject: Re: Eclipse: Totally Dumb Questions
I'm glad you are finding it so easy to use. Perhaps, what needs to happen is for anyone who uses this Ide as a blind person to write a short tutorial about it from the perspective of a screen reader user. Do you use a screen reader or a screen magnifier? If a screen reader, which one do you use? Can you write something brief describing how to write and compile a short hello, world program in Java? Thanks. Alex M On 8/24/10, black ares <matematicianu2003@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Hmm, for me, is very simple to work with eclipse. There are some kind of concepts you must understand. First of all there exists a perspective. A perspective is a preconfigured eclipse workbench for a purpose. For example there is j2ee perspective, php perspective database design perspective. In this perspective you will find open more "views" and "Editors". Views are open windows inside the main eclipse window, windows for a specific purpose. For example in java perspective, you will find package explorer, console and so on. Tu move around views use the ctrl + f7 key strocke.Editors are a special kind of view, that permits editing actions with theirobjects.I am using eclipse on a daily basis for java development, j2ee development,birt development, php development, dotnet development. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Midence" <alex.midence@xxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 4:42 PM Subject: Re: Eclipse: Totally Dumb QuestionsWelcome to the wild whacky world of eclipse the accessible Ide that is a pain in the ahem ... class ... to learn because the obvious isn't obvious and the intuitive stuff never made it into production. It sounds like you are in the project explorer. Tab around and see if you land in a tree view. If you can do this, arrow to your file and use the context menu to edit it. Also type shift alt q to get a list of all the hotkeys eclipse has. Try going to alt w and the show view submenu. See if you can tell it to go to the project explorer if you are not already there. Sorry I can't be of more use. I was using eclipse's cdt for c++ development and eventually gave up on it because, accessible or not, I didn't find the app itself very user-friendly and the manuals I landed on were very sketchy and rather unhelpful to the beginner. I hope your experience is different. You are actually using the IDE for its original intended purpose. The documentation for java developers is probably much more extensive. In fact, now I think of it there are some eclipse manuals on eclipse in the java archive of the nonvisual development site. They are probably for an older version but, you might check them out. They may help you. Good luck, Alex M On 8/23/10, Homme, James <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Hi, This is my first Hello World type project, so I'm probably doing something totally wrong. I get to the part where I tell the program the name of my file. I typed in Welcome.java with a capital W. It sounded like an edit window came up when I pressed Enter. When I try to type characters just to see if I can read and write text, I can't seem to read anything. What am I doing wrong? Thanks. Jim Jim Homme, Usability Services, Phone: 412-544-1810. Skype: jim.homme Internal recipients, Read my accessibility blog<http://mysites.highmark.com/personal/lidikki/Blog/default.aspx>. Discuss accessibility here<http://collaborate.highmark.com/COP/technical/accessibility/default.aspx>. Accessibility Wiki: Breaking news and accessibility advice<http://collaborate.highmark.com/COP/technical/accessibility/Accessibility%20Wiki/Forms/AllPages.aspx> ________________________________ This e-mail and any attachments to it are confidential and are intendedsolely for use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Ifyou have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and then delete it. If you are not the intended recipient, you must notkeep, use, disclose, copy or distribute this e-mail without the author'sprior permission. The views expressed in this e-mail message do not necessarily represent the views of Highmark Inc., its subsidiaries, or affiliates.__________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind__________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind__________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind
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