It's not a list, it's a site. www.nonvisualdevelopment.org It's got all sorts of useful tools for the blind programmer. Alex M On 8/24/10, Stanzel, Susan - Kansas City, MO <susan.stanzel@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > What is this nonvisual development list. I have never used it. What > development does it talk about? > > Susie Stanzel > > -----Original Message----- > From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of black ares > Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 12:31 PM > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: Eclipse: Totally Dumb Questions > > Hmm, for me, is very simple to work with eclipse. > There are some kind of concepts you must understand. > First of all there exists a perspective. > A perspective is a preconfigured eclipse workbench for a purpose. > For example there is j2ee perspective, > php perspective > database design perspective. > In this perspective you will find open more "views" and "Editors". > Views are open windows inside the main eclipse window, windows for a > specific purpose. > For example in java perspective, > you will find package explorer, console and so on. > Tu move around views use the ctrl + f7 key strocke. > Editors are a special kind of view, that permits editing actions with their > objects. > I am using eclipse on a daily basis for java development, j2ee development, > birt development, php development, dotnet development. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alex Midence" <alex.midence@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 4:42 PM > Subject: Re: Eclipse: Totally Dumb Questions > > >> Welcome to the wild whacky world of eclipse the accessible Ide that is >> a pain in the ahem ... class ... to learn because the obvious isn't >> obvious and the intuitive stuff never made it into production. It >> sounds like you are in the project explorer. Tab around and see if >> you land in a tree view. If you can do this, arrow to your file and >> use the context menu to edit it. Also type shift alt q to get a list >> of all the hotkeys eclipse has. >> Try going to alt w and the show view submenu. See if you can tell it >> to go to the project explorer if you are not already there. >> Sorry I can't be of more use. I was using eclipse's cdt for c++ >> development and eventually gave up on it because, accessible or not, I >> didn't find the app itself very user-friendly and the manuals I landed >> on were very sketchy and rather unhelpful to the beginner. I hope >> your experience is different. You are actually using the IDE for its >> original intended purpose. The documentation for java developers is >> probably much more extensive. In fact, now I think of it there are >> some eclipse manuals on eclipse in the java archive of the nonvisual >> development site. They are probably for an older version but, you >> might check them out. They may help you. >> >> Good luck, >> Alex M >> >> >> On 8/23/10, Homme, James <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> This is my first Hello World type project, so I'm probably doing >>> something >>> totally wrong. >>> >>> I get to the part where I tell the program the name of my file. I typed >>> in >>> Welcome.java with a capital W. It sounded like an edit window came up >>> when I >>> pressed Enter. When I try to type characters just to see if I can read >>> and >>> write text, I can't seem to read anything. What am I doing wrong? >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Jim >>> >>> Jim Homme, >>> Usability Services, >>> Phone: 412-544-1810. 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