Hi. still getting that problem, when i am in properties, in the drop down area, and try to arrow down, still says okay, cancel, details, and get the same result if i go to browse, and then select the context menu, still get the same error. so how do i fix that, or do i need to download some thing else, to fix that problem. cheers Marvin. __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind