Hi. just tried going to properties of the context menu strip, and renamed then conContextMenu1, as using camel casing. well, went to the drop down, and said none. when i went to browse, and had the conContextMenu1, when i hit the enter key, said this property value was not valid. so, how do i get jaws to read the context menu, and the other context menu strip, just had drop shadow, items and the collections. cheers Marvin. __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind