RE: Calculating a Kilobyte

  • From: "Sina Bahram" <sbahram@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:52:11 -0400

 
This one you are correct on and I thought of as soon as I hit send.

Please note: it is not to say that one can not do this, but I know of no
program that actually takes advantage of this.

Take care,
Sina

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Octavian Rasnita
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 5:29 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Calculating a Kilobyte

I didn't make the calculation, but if it was good, then the defragmentation 
doesn't change anything.

The defragmentation would change things only if more than one cluster of a 
file is occupied only partially.
In that case, the content from other clusters will be moved to fill all the 
clusters of the file entirely, and leave eventually only one cluster 
partially occupied.

Octavian

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "E.J. Zufelt" <everett@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 11:19 PM
Subject: Re: Calculating a Kilobyte


> Question:
>
> How does defragging change the fact that the last block only consists of 1

> byte?
>
> Everett
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Sina Bahram" <sbahram@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 4:13 PM
> Subject: RE: Calculating a Kilobyte
>
>
>> That is, until one defrags.
>>
>> Take care,
>> Sina
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of black ares
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 4:11 PM
>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: Calculating a Kilobyte
>>
>> you are right, but as anyone said,
>> a block has a fixed size and a file can niot fill all of its bloks
>> if you have the block size 4096 bytes
>> and you have a file of 12289 bytes you will have 4 bloks
>> but only a byte from the 4th block will be used, the rest of 4095 will be
>> free, but no other file can use them because this is a block of the
>> specified file.
>> so infact the file will have on the hdd 16384 bytes.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "tribble" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 1:08 AM
>> Subject: Re: Calculating a Kilobyte
>>
>>
>>> Don't you mean data is stored in blocks of a fixed size? Or is there a 
>>> new
>>> paradigm since my active time on this stuff? A block was a multiple of a
>>> kilobyte.  A file was so many blocks. The blocks didn't need to be
>>> contiguous. The mapping to blocks was completely transparent to the end
>>> user.
>>> Sina -- you're still in academia studying the current state of data
>>> storage.
>>> I have not runto anything referring to blocks on windows, so maybe it 
>>> was
>>> just a unix-ism.
>>> Anyone have an idea what the truth is? Just curious.
>>> TIA
>>> --le
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "E.J. Zufelt" <everett@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 4:33 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Calculating a Kilobyte
>>>
>>>
>>> Also,
>>>
>>> On a harddrive there is used space, free space and wasted space.  Since
>>> information is stored on a disk in sectors there are times that a small
>>> amount of information takes up a large amount of space.
>>>
>>> For instance, a file that is 123 bytes in size may take up 4096 bytes
>>> because two files cannot be stored in the same sector.
>>>
>>> The rule is that a single file can be stored in many sectors, but two
>>> files
>>> cannot be stored in any one sector.
>>>
>>> HTH,
>>> Everett
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Sina Bahram" <sbahram@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 5:17 PM
>>> Subject: RE: Calculating a Kilobyte
>>>
>>>
>>>> You're being caught by the fact that harddrive manufacturers measure a
>>>> megabyte as 1,000,000 bytes, and your 188 gigabytes is being given to 
>>>> you
>>>> in
>>>> terms of a gigabyte being 1,024 megabytes which are 1,024 killabytes
>>>> which
>>>> are 1,024 bytes.
>>>>
>>>> Take care,
>>>> Sina
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Hayden's
>>>> Harness
>>>> Attachment
>>>> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 5:01 PM
>>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: Calculating a Kilobyte
>>>>
>>>> I have an external USB Hard Drive. That says ihave 188GB free. The
>>>> kilobytes
>>>> are 202,016,489,472. Dividing this by 188GB, gives 1,074,555,795. Huh? 
>>>> I
>>>> thought 1MB was 1,024,576.
>>>>
>>>> Angus MacKinnon
>>>> Infoforce Services
>>>> http://www.infoforce-services.com
>>>>
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