Re: C++ Compilers for Windows, and a Good Book

  • From: Alex Midence <alex.midence@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 12:30:31 -0600

Thought Watcom was just for Dos like Digital Mars.

Alex M

On 12/16/10, Øyvind Lode <oyvind.lode@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> What about Open Watcom C/C++ compiler?
>
> I've not tried it my self yet though.
> But Watcom was a very well know C compiler and I guess it's still popular.
>
> Personally I use GCC for my C programming studies.
> But I plan to look at other compilers when I know more about C.
>
> Open Watcom homepage:
> http://www.openwatcom.org
>
> On 16.12.2010 15:48, Alex Midence wrote:
>> The only other compiler I have used for c++ in windows has been the
>> cl.exe compiler that comes with visual studio.  I've found it to do
>> quite well.   YOu just have to run a batch file in the bin
>> subidrectory to make it work in command line.  As for books.  Here's
>> the one I decided on:
>>
>> http://www.deitel.com/Books/C/CHowtoProgram7e/tabid/3472/Default.aspx
>>
>> Thing is, I'm using the 6th edition.  I got it from Recordings for the
>> blind and Dislexic:
>>
>> http://www.rfbd.org
>>
>> I don't know if this service is available to you where you are or if
>> they have some provision for people who have access to other
>> libraries.  I've found it to be a nice book.  I like the early
>> introduction of classes and the case study.  You build an automatic
>> teller machine which is kind of a neat concept because the idea of
>> embedded programming is made to float around the back of your mind
>> from the get-go.   I'm still in the early part of it.  I know I'd said
>> I was going to leave c++ for python for a while but I just didn't feel
>> right..  This book is nice because it's designed for a college course
>> and not to make high sales.  The only caviat I will give you is that I
>> think the sixth edition is more standards compliant.  Reading the
>> authors' description of what they did in the seventh edition made me
>> worry since they introduce conventions other programmers will probably
>> frown upon quite ferociously.  The biggest of these is the elimination
>> of return 0 at the end of many programs based on the assumption that
>> if a program doesn't return anything specified, it returns 0.  The one
>> time I did that, my compiler complained.  The other is putting using
>> namespace std as the second line instead of listing all the parts of
>> the standard library you intend to use:
>>
>> using std::cout
>> using std::cin
>> using std::string
>>
>>
>> And so forth.  It's a compromise form using std::cout, std::string
>> every time you have to use them.
>>
>> thanks.
>>
>> Alex M
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/16/10, Kerneels Roos<kerneels@xxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
>>> Hi list,
>>>
>>> Apart from the MinGW suite and Cygwin that both provide GCC , are there
>>> any other compilers for C++ that you guys can recommend -- including
>>> commercial ones -- for Windows?
>>>
>>> Last week I read a few chapters from the classic Thinking in C++ book
>>> available from www.mindview.com, and I was reminded again what an
>>> excellent language C++ still is. The book is really very good and
>>> comprises 2 volumes covering a lot of ground.  C++ is not a simple
>>> language, with many, many features you can shoot yourself in the foot
>>> with, but that is the price of power, execution speed and flexibility,
>>> and maintaining compatibility with C (part of the design objectives of
>>> the language).
>>>
>>> Most of us will probably not code business applications in C++, but I
>>> would encourage any serious programmer to study it to gain a deeper
>>> understanding of how Java and C# solves many of the difficult areas of
>>> C++ programming. If you fully understand the language and all it's
>>> features I think you might be able to code amazing applications and
>>> API's that will run fast and efficient. You will also be able to
>>> appreciate the contribution that more modern languages have made to the
>>> world of programming.
>>>
>>> It will be very interesting to see what the future holds for C++. From
>>> what I can understand there seems to be an effort underway to establish
>>> a new standard for the language code named 0X.
>>> Regards.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Kerneels Roos
>>> Cell: +27 (0)82 309 1998
>>> Skype: cornelis.roos
>>>
>>> "If one has the talent it pushes for utterance and torments one; it will
>>> out; and then one is out with it without questioning. And, look you,
>>> there
>>> is nothing in this thing of learning out of books. Here, here and here
>>> (pointing to his ear, his head and his heart) is your school. If
>>> everything
>>> is right there, then take your pen and down with it; afterward ask the
>>> opinion of a man who knows his business."
>>>
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>>> compose.)
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