RE: Beginning to Learn c++
- From: "Homme, James" <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 06:48:19 -0400
Hi Katherine,
It's better to stick with facts if you are trying to teach something. If you
are responding to someone who is looking for facts, and you want to state an
opinion, it would be good to make it obvious that it is your opinion. This list
is primarily supposed to be for teaching and learning, although our moderator
is absent and we are policing ourselves.
Thanks.
Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Katherine Moss
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 9:07 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Beginning to Learn c++
Well the benefits I speak of are unfortunately only in my opinion. I just
think that the CLR is cleaner in the way it handles things like memory
management and stuff. That's my big thing with it.
-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Littlefield, Tyler
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 8:58 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Beginning to Learn c++
I'll clerify. You're talking about the "benafits" of the clr. You're not going
to get those benafits (which you still haven't explained) without altering code
(which wouldn't make it native code) to use the clr.
Garbage collection, for example. You'd need to use ^ for references.
On 7/15/2011 6:33 PM, Littlefield, Tyler wrote:
> because c++ is not the same as c++.net. you don't just write something
> in c++, then compile it to use the CLR.
> On 7/15/2011 4:39 PM, Katherine Moss wrote:
>> If you ask me though, you should use C# unless you need to work with
>> MAPI or something obnoxious like that. I'm a beginner too, but C#'s
>> my language. I don't understand how I confused you by saying that
>> using Microsoft compiler in VS 2010 and then compiling with the CLR
>> option was confusing because it just gives C++ the features of the
>> CLR such as garbage collection and memory management.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Edgar
>> Lozano
>> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 4:18 PM
>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: Beginning to Learn c++
>>
>> Yeah. I was kind of wondering what you were talking about. I don't
>> know what an c++.net is, I don't know a lot of stuff. I'm just a
>> beginner programmer.
>>
>> On 7/15/11, Littlefield, Tyler<tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> First, you said you can use microsoft's. I assumed you were talking
>>> about .net, or you don't know what clr is. Second, what are these "clr"
>>> enhancements you speak of?
>>> On 7/15/2011 10:23 AM, Katherine Moss wrote:
>>>> How is that misinformation? Visual C++ is what I meant, I was just
>>>> too lazy to say it. And how does that not have CLR enhancements?
>>>> I don't see how I'm wrong there, but I'll go away now and you can
>>>> yell at me later on if you'd like when I'm not at work. How's that?
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
>>>> Littlefield, Tyler
>>>> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 12:18 PM
>>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: Re: Beginning to Learn c++
>>>>
>>>> Hello:
>>>> Glad to see you're getting going with c++, it's a rather nice
>>>> language.
>>>> Anyway, as for compilers the best I've found on Windows is visual c++.
>>>> You can get the 2008 or 2010 edition free, if you get visual studio
>>>> express. As for books and guides, I recommend thinking in c++, by
>>>> bruce eckel. If you google it, you'll find that the books are free.
>>>> I'm throwing in my contact info if you use msn/aim/skype and have
>>>> further questions or just run into a problem.
>>>> msn: tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> skype: st8amnd127
>>>> aim: st8amnd2005
>>>> HTH,
>>>> On 7/15/2011 10:07 AM, Edgar Lozano wrote:
>>>>> Hey there. My name is Edgar. Does anybody know where I can find
>>>>> C++ getting started guides and tutorials? I also want to know what
>>>>> kinds of compilers that different people use that are accessible
>>>>> with any screen reader.
>>>>> Thank you.
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>>> Ty
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