Thanks Dante. Thanks to you I had a meeting with the SSIS devs last year, in
November I think, and I felt it went well, but I don’t know if anything will
come of it.
Best,
Juan
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Of Dante Gagne ("danteg")
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2022 4:16 PM
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Subject: [program-l] Re: wierd request for nvda/jaws
For what it’s worth, I really wish you didn’t have to do something like this. I
consider it an embarrassment to Microsoft that folks have to try to figure out
how to cobble together two separate screen readers to get their job done.
I don’t have much to say about this right now, other than to say that I’m
taking this to my leadership team as a place where the efforts we’ve been
making in accessibility across our developer tools hasn’t met the bar we’re
trying to meet.
I’m sorry you’re going through this. We want to be better.
--Dante
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Hmm,
This is where my JAWS scripting knowledge falls dreadfully short but can a
script be bound to flicking that setting off and on within a particular
application?
Op vr 14 jan. 2022 om 00:33 schreef <vortex37@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:vortex37@xxxxxxxxx> >:
hmm, just tested with nvda and I am able to put it to sleep and wake it
up wilst simultaneously using jaws. It seems nvda lets all keys pass,
except nvda+shift+z, used to wake it up. ON the other hand, since jaws
does not have such a keystroke, there might not be any way to directly
wake it up from the keyboard. It might work with a script activated via
COM, or directly modifying the application corresponding jcf file.
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Sent: 14.01.2022 01:08:13
Subject: [program-l] Re: wierd request for nvda/jaws
Does sleep mode entirely disable keyboard intercept?
That might actually work, then, yes. I believe JAWS's sleep mode works
on a per-application basis, so you'd have to set it and forget it as
it were.
2022-01-13 22:57 GMT+01:00, vortex37@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:vortex37@xxxxxxxxx>
<vortex37@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:vortex37@xxxxxxxxx> >:
I think bot nvda and jaws have sleep modes, which disable both speech** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:-
and keyboard intercept. for nvda is nvda+shift+z, I don't know if jaws
has a kestroke assigned. you might need to write a little script to
automatize it. then, write an external program to handle the toggling by
sending the corresponding key command.
Reporting issues to nvda might help, too. I think most info in ms apps
is gotten via UIA, so nvda should be able to read all what jaws does.
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Sent: 13.01.2022 18:01:38
Subject: [program-l] wierd request for nvda/jaws
Hi All,
I’m working with VS 2019, and Microsoft SQL Server Integration
Services.
There are things in SSIS that read well with Jaws, and others that only
read really well with NVDA.
Is there any way feasible to run both screen readers at the same time
functionally, but keep the active one muted?
Has anyone ever tried this, or does anyone do this?
I just loose some much time when moving between the screen readers on a
daily basis that I wish I could just run them both.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
Best,
Juan
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