Dante, first impressions off-hand are that they didn't really get
screen-reader users - blind ones anyway - to test/try this out properly.
As in, not very impressed with interface thus far - simplest example is
that menu systems are not available via alt-key, but, you need to invoke
one of them via alt+F and then use left and right arrows to locate otehrs.
Also, to activate things like buttons on initial startup splash screen,
using NVDA, I need to either use NVDA+numpad enter, or route mouse
cursor to location and then activate mouse click, instead of just
hitting enter key or space bar.
So, sorry - should have been put off the moment it mentioned JRE/JAB...LOL!
Will in any case stick to VS code as my primary form of an actual IDE.
Stay well
Jacob Kruger
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"Resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2022-01-12 07:26 PM, Dante Gagne (danteg) wrote:
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JetBrains' products are one of the ones that we're always watching from Visual Studio. If
folks have got any feedback, particularly in things that you feel they do better or worse
than Visual Studio, I'd love to hear it. I've always been an opponent to explicit
"Screen Reader Modes" in applications, but I'm curious if it does end up
delivering a better experience.
Anyway, if anyone has feedback to share, I'd appreciate hearing it.
--Dante
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And, another quick google search brought up the following form of a wiki page
about this:
https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jetbrains.com%2Fhelp%2Fpycharm%2Faccessibility.html&data=04%7C01%7CDanteG%40microsoft.com%7C12fd513de8cb4d33b26b08d9d59656b9%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637775664634060298%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=IMIErwNtfFSniZykcIdUPeOcEi5OvMnQglvjSh5Hek4%3D&reserved=0
Jacob Kruger
+2782 413 4791
"Resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2022-01-12 08:34 AM, jacob kruger wrote:
Ok, for whatever reason, decided to give this python-specific IDE** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:-
another look, and, although never really felt comfortable trying to
use their products in the past, and, while never really considered
paying for any of the pro products, when I fired up the pyCharm
community edition for the first time, it asked me if I wanted to
enable screenreader accessibility mode, so, just thought would mention
this here on this list.
The installer downloaded was pycharm-community-2021.3.1.exe, and,
pulled it off the following page - you need to make sure you download
the community edition, and, not the free trial of the pro version:
https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.
jetbrains.com%2Fpycharm%2Fdownload%2F%23section%3Dwindows&data=04%
7C01%7CDanteG%40microsoft.com%7C12fd513de8cb4d33b26b08d9d59656b9%7C72f
988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637775664634060298%7CUnknown%7
CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXV
CI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=VWRXTKGtN9CY5O%2FXRqp0aLmkzZwyAtFRyad%2BALj
AE9s%3D&reserved=0
Anyway, haven't given it too much of a go/run as of yet, but, if it
tries to specifically offer screenreader compatibility, will
definitely see what it has to offer - hence sharing it here, in case
of interest to others.
Jacob Kruger
+2782 413 4791
"Resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."
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