Hello,
In the past I've had good luck using Eclipse and its Data Tools plugin.
It supports anything with a JDBC driver. I've been able to browse a tree
showing tables, columns, constraits, etc. and also export DDL.
Chris
On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 12:23:31PM +0000, Walker, Michael E wrote:
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I realized I should have been more clear. The context I was thinking of for
how PL/SQL packages and programs are pulled out of a database is how sighted
people use a program like TOAD to pull what they need, and it is already
formatted. For most tasks, I regularly use SQL*Plus. However, when pulling
code out using that, I was once told that it botches the formatting. Have you
heard of a way to use SQL*Plus to pull code out? Also, do you think TOAD will
ever be accessible in the future?
Thanks,
Mike
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Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 5:07 PM
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Subject: [program-l] Re: accessibility
Hi Mike,
Apache POI has some useful .jar libraries if it helps
Roger
On 08/09/2017 19:56, Walker, Michael E wrote:
What do you use for database access, such as if you needed to log into Oracle
and pull PL/SQL code out of the database that has already been compiled?
Also, how do you preserve the formatting? Have you done that type of
development?
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Subject: [program-l] Re: accessibility
I mostly do android development with android studio, and java enterprise
development with eclipse. The rest is c++ development with visual studio or
a Linux compiler.
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Subject: [program-l] Re: accessibility
You are welcome, Juan. What tools do you use as a software engineer, to not
have any accessibility issues? What kind of development do you do?
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Subject: [program-l] Re: accessibility
I appreciate these comments.
I am actually a software engineer at my company. I don't really have
accessibility issues myself. I am developing a accessibility framework so my
company can build policies and procedures to make sure the teams are
developing accessible content, documents, websites and products.
I am attaching my draft document maybe you guys can provide any insites, or
suggestions I would really appreciate it.
Best,
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I have found OCR built into JAWS to work well enough for my needs, but as
Roger stated, try different packages to find out what works best for your
needs. It may even be the case that the entire document does not have to be
accessible for you, which is why you again may want to narrow down the
information you need, as even though OCR is great, it is not perfect.
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[mailto:program-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Roger Woolgrove
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Subject: [program-l] Re: accessibility
Juan,
I got this message a bit late but essentially Mike has it covered and he
gives good advice.
The only thing I may add is that if a document is inaccessible for whatever
reason there are some good packages which can scan in a document and
determine quite accurately what is written. This is helpful with illegible
pdf documents and the like. A scanner does not have to be used with pdf files
and so forth as they can usually be opened from within the software.
Omni page is one such piece but I have no recent experience.
Kurtzweil 1000 is a good piece of kit and the one I use even though mine is
very dated now, it still gives good results.
There are some freebie OCR packages out there and I'm sure there are many
opinions on them also.
Roger
On 07/09/2017 20:40, Walker, Michael E wrote:
You are welcome. What I recommend is that even though you are coming up with
these policies to make apps, documents, and presentations accessible for your
company, you will want to use your newly acquired knowledge from the
standards I recommended in my last email to know if an app or information
produced by it like a document is accessible. The only true way to know if an
app, site, or document is accessible is to try using it. If it is not, you
can reference the part of the accessibility standards that are relevant for
making it accessible. Also keep in mind that if it is a big app, the company
may not be able to afford to make the app itself accessible, but may consider
that when and if it is time to redesign that app. In some cases, you may need
to make due with features of your screen reader like graphics and custom
labels, to help improve the app's accessibility, or some basic scripting to
access those essential parts of the app or site. Also, when you run into a
situation where the app cannot be accessible, consider finding out if
information from the inaccessible app can be exported to a more accessible
Word document, HTML, or PDF. Finally, do not underestimate the power of
asking for help. There will be times when it is so much faster to narrow down
what you need, and have a co-worker look at the screen with you. That may
save you hours of trying to find workarounds to do something basic, like get
a video to play. Pressing alt+print screen to take a screenshot is one way to
do this, if you do not have time to meet with the co-worker. That screen shot
is copied to your clipboard, and you can paste it into an email. I hope this
helps.
Best regards,
Mike
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Subject: [program-l] Re: accessibility
Thanks for this info. I appreciate it.
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Subject: [program-l] Re: accessibility
Hi Juan,
Research Web Content Accessibility Guidelines by the World Wide Web
Consortium. The latest is 2.0. You will also want to become familiar with
Section 508 of the Rehabilitation Act, part of access-board.gov.
Additionally, read through Creating Nonvisually Accessible
Documents<https://nfb.org/images/nfb/products_technology/creating_accessible_documents.docx>.
Mike
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Subject: [program-l] accessibility
Hi All,
I am developing an accessibility framework/ guidelines for my company.
One of the sections is for external tooling. Can you guys give me any
pointers on this? What I mean by external tooling is software that the
company buys to use internally for Blind and visually impaired employees.
Some of my questions are:
What is the best way to determine a software is accessible? What are some
guidelines to follow for this? Etc...
I am trying to develop an accessibility policy for my company. I have a
section for static documents like word, pdf, etc. How to determine that they
are accessible, how to make accessible documents etc.
Any pointers I would truly appreciate.
Best,
Juan Hernandez
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