Thanks Chris. Yes I can remember now hearing in the FS podcast RE JAWS 14 and Windoes 8 that for that type of info you only now get the window in focus - for info obtained from the OSM. I'll check that link out also. Since this is how it is going to work in Windows 8 can't they also make it available for Windows 7?
Cheers On 2012/10/22 02:31 PM, Chris Mullins wrote:
The Jaws people are not going to use a mirror driver in Windows 8, apparently Microsoft have written some sort of API to get to the OSM but it doesn't give as much feedback as they currently get via the mirror driver. It only provides feedback regarding the window in focus. Below is a link to a presentation done by Eric Damaray of Freedom Scientific in which he refers to the situation. Note it's a long link which sometimes breaks over 2 lines and stops working, so you may need to copy and paste it and join the bits together to make it work. http://www.accessibleworld.org/sites/default/files/tt-10-15-12-eric-damery-j aws-14.mp3 Cheers Chris -----Original Message----- From: program-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:program-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerneels Roos Sent: 22 October 2012 08:11 To: program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [program-l] Re: Preventing JAWS 14 beta from changing the screen resolution and color scheme to Windows 7 Basic Thanks Andy. The actual problem I'm having is that JAWS does something that causes the Windows Magnifier to stop working in full screen mode. In order to have the Windows Magnifier work the way I need it to work I have to use an Aero Win7 theme - Aero has to be on. I've researched it a bit further and found out that in Win7 there are two display models; the old XP Display Model (XDM) and the new Windows Display Model (WDM). Software that require a Display Mirror Driver such as JAWS requires the old XDM which by the way is thrown out in Windows 8 - so FS would have to build a mirror driver for WDM then to get that kind of functionality on Windows 8. What it means for anyone that want to use JAWS and a little bit of screen magnifier features, such as color inversion and some basic magnification for now and then use, is: 1. You would have to get JAWS to work with WDM, possibly through a new type of mirror driver so that you can use the Windows Magnifier which is sufficient for some people. 2. You would have to find some free full screen magnifier program that works with XDM and then just not use WDM and Aero themes. Anyone know of a decent free or inexpensive XDM capable magnifier program for Win7 that can at least invert the screen, and optionally provide minimal magnification? I'm going to try lightening express now. Some references (sorry for the link wrapping): Interesting and informative blog about Win 8 accessibility: http://open.salon.com/blog/the_weird_writer/2011/06/22/windows_8_and_accessi bility_for_the_blind Free Magnification programs compiled by the RNIB: http://www.rnib.org.uk/LIVINGWITHSIGHTLOSS/COMPUTERSPHONES/PC/ACCESSIBILITY/ ASSISTIVE/Pages/free_windows_magnification.aspx Screen Color Inverter that works only with Aero (so WDM) and that is better than what Windows Magnifier can do: http://hg.arcanesanctum.net/negativescreen On 2012/10/21 03:39 PM, Andy B. wrote:All I did was go to start, type theme, press ENTER, choose Windows classic, press ENTEr to change the theme. Then go to display in control panel and make sure the resolution is set for your monitor type. Mine is 17.5 inch x 12 inch (1396x1284). Force the computer to accept your choice andreestart.-----Original Message----- From: program-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:program-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerneels Roos Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 7:53 AM To: program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [program-l] Preventing JAWS 14 beta from changing the screen resolution and color scheme to Windows 7 Basic Hi. When starting JAWS 14 beta or JAWS 13, the color scheme on Windows 7 is changed to "Basic Color Scheme" and the resolution is altered resulting in Win7 advising that the new resolution is not correct for the primary display. The result is that the Windows 7 magnifier stops working. This is probably due to JAWS disabling Aero. Why is JAWS doing this and can it be prevented? I assume there is a reason why JAWS does this, so if JAWS is prevented to make these changes, what would it break in JAWS functionality? 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