[program-l] Re: MS HTML Help Workshop or? Accessibility

  • From: Soronel Haetir <soronel.haetir@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 09:22:46 -0800

Yes, it is the help viewer that is the accessibility problem not the
help format itself.  There is at least one 3rd party vs2010 viewer
that is quite a bit friendlier than the MS provided application --
it's called h3 (it acts a lot more like dexplore), but it does not
work with the vs2012 files (vs2010 and vs2012 use somewhat different
organization but I believe the help page files themselves are the
same) and as far as I know no one else has put out a viewer either.

I've written to the VS help team about a few of the problems but they
don't seem very responsive, or frankly to even understand why there is
a problem to begin with.

I've done a little work toward making a program that can take the
latest help files and produce a dexplore collection but it hasn't
progressed all that far.

On 10/28/12, RicksPlace <ofbgmail@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Thanks for the clarification.
> I was under the wrong understanding they still were using the chm format.
> I think allot of the accessibility issues stem from the viewer layout rather
>
> than the format though.
> Perhaps it can be customized but I dont have time to look into it now.
> Later guys and thanks for the heads up:
> Rick USA
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 10:39 AM
> Subject: [program-l] Re: MS HTML Help Workshop or? Accessibility
>
>
>> MS is now pushing the help system that vs2012 uses (which I have a lot
>> of problems with personally).  The vs2012 help viewer simply is not
>> very friendly in my experience, unlike chm or dexplore.
>>
>> Unlike chm and the dexplore format the vs2012 format does not use a
>> custom file type, instead it is a zip file (though with a different
>> extension).
>>
>> On 10/28/12, RicksPlace <ofbgmail@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Then what is?
>>> I havent seen anything new out of VS 2012 docs yet unless I missed it.
>>> Rick USA
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 9:57 PM
>>> Subject: [program-l] Re: MS HTML Help Workshop or? Accessibility
>>>
>>>
>>>>I would say the really unfortunate thing is that chm is no longer the
>>>> MS sanctioned help format.
>>>>
>>>> On 10/19/12, QuentinC <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> If needed, MSHTMLW come with a number of command-line tools that
>>>>> compile
>>>>> .chm. There are also external tools that produce the right files to
>>>>> interface with these tools.
>>>>>
>>>>> A partially sighted person from a french list has for example made a
>>>>> program that can export to .chm in that way. Infortunately his
>>>>> software
>>>>> is in french, sorry...
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