[program-l] Re: Apache/linux server dynamically changing file/folder permissions?
- From: "Jacob Kruger" <jacob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 22:52:24 +0200
I could easily enough request images from/via a PHP script/page, have it load
image data, and pass it back to browser, etc., but, that would somewhat spoil
the lack of processing that serving static/flat content would offer...<smile>
Plus, in terms of search engine processing of content, am still pretty sure
(and this is one of these categories of opinion that some people might disagree
with), but, search engines generally rank what they 'see' as static content
higher in terms of being a valid search result than dynamic content, so the
more dynamic content processing they take as being involved in rendering
real-time output, might be a bad sign from that side, etc., but anyway - amd
not talking about actual search engine optimisation, since I see/take that as
having more to do with the cleanliness/W3C framework-specification matching
structure of your output content's markup/layout structure, etc.
Main thing is on the to be primary production server think we've got the issue
sorted, but anyway.
Stay well
Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
----- Original Message -----
From: Homme, James
To: program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 10:01 PM
Subject: [program-l] Re: Apache/linux server dynamically changing file/folder
permissions?
Hi Jacob,
Maybe you write a process that does all of the file I/O that is able to run
as someone with better settings and pass a return code back to your web
application? Is that possible?
Jim
From: program-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:program-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 9:28 AM
To: program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [program-l] Re: Apache/linux server dynamically changing file/folder
permissions?
Problem is think this has to do with apache's handling of file serving itself
- as in, since you're posting both change/write actions and retrieval requests
via apache itself, it's the one handling the relevant permissions in terms of
type of activity.
Either way, think we've sorted it out by setting a slightly different default
permission level for the sort of root of that site's instance on the server,
but let's see.
Primary thing was just that it seemed like apache, or some other process was
resetting file permissions on-the-fly, such that just after had specifically
told apache to allocate/allow specific permissions on a folder/file, by the
time the next page request, or image file request was to be processed - within
like 1 second later, it was telling the browser that, nope, sorry, you're only
allowed to execute that file, and not just read/retrieve it, etc. etc.
Stay well
Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
----- Original Message -----
From: Homme, James
To: program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 2:22 PM
Subject: [program-l] Re: Apache/linux server dynamically changing
file/folder permissions?
Hi Jacob,
My memory tells me that Apache runs as a user called nobody. That user has
very little permissions. That is for security reasons. I'm not sure what the
best solution for this is in your scase.
Thanks.
Jim
From: program-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:program-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 7:09 PM
To: Program-l
Subject: [program-l] Apache/linux server dynamically changing file/folder
permissions?
Just posting this here in case someone has an idea about how to 'fix'
this/work around it - since haven't managed to find anything via 'net, or other
PHP specific mailing lists as of yet.
In that small/simple content-management-system posted about other day,
issue seems to be that while am continually/consistently setting output file
and folder permissions to 0776 - owner and group rwx, and public rw - for now -
using PHP's chmod() function, before and after trying to copy/generate any
output content for it, the server seems to be
consistently/dynamically/immediately resetting the permissions to something
slightly different, which won't let me then view/browse all the content.
Silly/simple example is that I will handle image file upload, and copy
uploaded image to a folder in a script, but, sort of immediately, that image,
and the folder it's in, and that one's parent folder are
invisible/unavailable/inaccessible.
Before I then run a sort of recursive script to again reset all content
permissions, I can't even browse the content via FTP interface - for example.
When generating output/static content, I am also then
consistently/continually resetting path permissions just before/after creating
folders and files, if necessary, and that seems to work, some of the time, but,
not for everything.
Am going to try it out on another server, just to try figure/find out if
it's a specific issue for this server/part of file structure, or something,
but, bit irritating thus far...<smile>
Stay well
Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
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