Re: [PCWorks] Installation of XP questions
- From: Peter Kaulback <peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: pcworks@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 16:44:00 -0500
NTFS began with NT 3.1 in 1993.
I use GParted, the Gnome Partition Editor
http://gparted.sourceforge.net/ and it is free. It boots from a cd or a
usb drive.
It is a great tool!
Peter Kaulback
Clint Hamilton-PCWorks Admin-OrpheusComputing.com &
ComputersCustomBuilt.com wrote:
> That's ridiculous. Win2k I think and later uses NTFS. Plus
> I'm sure more I don't know about. Like I said, too good to be
> true. Keep looking, I'm sure there's some free ones out there,
> or at least a trial that will let you use it for a while. Good
> enough for what you want.
> -Clint
>
> God Bless
> Clint Hamilton, Owner
> http://www.OrpheusComputing.com
> http://www.ComputersCustomBuilt.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "LarryB"
>
>
> Unfortunately, I found out that program does not handle NTFS so
> would
> not be recommended. http://partitionlogic.org.uk/
>
> Again sorry about the footers, I answered Hughes email from
> bell south
> instead of my Thunderbird. (excuse 127 ha)
>
> I guess I was comparing a fresh install vs a repair. So far I
> have only
> done the repair function. I was unsure of the fresh install as
> it always
> asked about the formatting or partitions.
>
> I had trouble with that link as it would not copy into my email
> for some
> reason so I put it in my self.
>
> LarryB
> K & L Electronics
> South Carolina
>
> Clint Hamilton-PCWorks Admin-OrpheusComputing. com &
> ComputersCustomBuilt. com wrote:
> Well that is a fresh install. When a partition is deleted and
> recreated, or if you tell XP to install XP over that partition,
> that's new.
>
> I'm not sure exactly what you mean, but any decent disk imaging
> has its own OS so-to-speak. It's sort of a pseudo-DOS thing
> that runs before the OS is loaded and that's when the imaging
> or restoring is done. Some also have options to do it in
> Windows, but that's not recommended. Norton's Ghost calls
> theirs PC-DOS. These are still dependent upon an OS, meaning
> if you're running Linux maybe or some strange OS, they have to
> support it in order for you to install it. But if you mean
> they are not dependent meaning they can do their imaging and
> restoration outside of the OS, correct. That one you mention
> appears to be different, in that it's never really installed.
> Interesting. Looks too good to be true. (I fixed the link in
> your email so it would be clickable).
> -Clint
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "LarryB"
>
> So bottom line is that a fresh install is best.
>
> I just found Partition Logic which is free and stand alone. ie
> you put
> an image on disk and it has its' own OS therefore not dependant
> on M$ or
> any other OS. I'm going to try it.
>
> I will put another partition on my HD and then install a fresh
> XP on
> that partition. Perhaps after it is working I will delete the
> original
> OS partition.
>
> You can view this software if interested at
> http://partitionlogic.org.uk/
>
>
>
> LarryB
> K & L Electronics
> South Carolina
>
> Clint Hamilton-PCWorks Admin-OrpheusComputing. com &
> ComputersCustomBuilt. com wrote:
> "If you only have one small partition where the OS is
> installed, and you want to install XP over that, you
> can."...... but of course everything on it will be deleted. The
> "reinstall" of XP, doesn't work. At least it's NOT just a
> reinstall. It wipes the drive or the partition, contrary to
> what M$ said about it. I found that out the hard way.
> -Clint
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>
> If you only have one small partition where the OS is installed,
> and you want to install XP over that, you can. Something other
> than that, you'll have to wait for more replies. ;-) Yes, if
> you only have one partition and if you delete that partition,
> then everything on that partition will be deleted.
>
> There's probably some free partition programs out there if you
> look. Or at least some that can be used free for a certain
> period of time.
> -Clint
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "LarryB"
>
>
> On the backup part I would ask if it also backs up the OS.
> Problem is you can't see what is in the backup without
> restoring it.
>
> I believe I only have one small partition where the OS is
> installed. I
> was just
> concerned that I would delete all on the drive if I deleted the
> partition and then remade it.
>
> I'll look into getting a partitioning program and hope I can
> use it ok.
> Thanks as always Clint
>
> LarryB
> K & L Electronics
> South Carolina
>
> Clint Hamilton wrote:
>
> I've never tried it, but from the sound of it I believe that
> "Backup" under System Tools will backup EVERYTHING. "All
> information on this computer". This is in the basic mode. You
> can go to Advanced mode and "Backup wizard" and "Backup
> everything on this computer".
>
> As to if "creating a new partition" will delete everything, I
> can't say for sure because every time I've done that I didn't
> want to save anything, but reformat. Since nothing was saved
> from the previous install, obviously I can conclude from that
> it deletes the drive. However, this was because I chose to
> create new partitions. But I believe you can create a new
> partition then install XP on that new partition, but that's
> iffy because it has to move all the data on the drive to make
> the room for the new partition. Something like that is best
> done with a partitioning program.
>
> Again, I've never tried to do any of that so I can't answer
> that part for sure. Now that I remember, I have in the past
> deleted the Windows partition directory and started over on
> that C: partition and my other partitions were intact. I had
> the main C: Windows partition and a storage partition--which
> remained untouched. I don't know if that's exactly what you
> want because I don't know if you want to save files on the C:
> area or another.
> -Clint
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "LarryB"
>
> I notice that when you put your disk in for XP you have
> choices. One is
> to repair and another is to install a fresh copy.
>
> My questions are when you do a fresh copy you are asked to make
> a
> partition.
> Does that delete all files on you hd?
> Is there anyway to install a fresh copy without deleting the
> files on
> the hd?
> I have made a backup of all my data files with the M$ backup
> utility on
> the computer so I'm not worried about that. It is just
> reinstalling
> programs that I really do not want to do.
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