Re: [PCWorks] Installation of XP questions

  • From: LarryB <larryb227@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: pcworks@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 12:12:19 -0500

So bottom line is that a fresh install is best.

I just found Partition Logic which is free and stand alone. ie you put 
an image on disk and it has its' own OS therefore not dependant on M$ or 
any other OS. I'm going to try it.

I will put another partition on my HD and then install a fresh XP on 
that partition. Perhaps after it is working I will delete the original 
OS partition.

You can view this software if interested at http:\\partitionlogic.org.uk



LarryB
K & L Electronics
South Carolina

Clint Hamilton-PCWorks Admin-OrpheusComputing. com & 
ComputersCustomBuilt. com wrote:
"If you only have one small partition where the OS is
installed, and you want to install XP over that, you
can."...... but of course everything on it will be deleted. The
"reinstall" of XP, doesn't work. At least it's NOT just a
reinstall. It wipes the drive or the partition, contrary to
what M$ said about it. I found that out the hard way.
-Clint


----- Original Message -----


If you only have one small partition where the OS is installed,
and you want to install XP over that, you can. Something other
than that, you'll have to wait for more replies. ;-) Yes, if
you only have one partition and if you delete that partition,
then everything on that partition will be deleted.

There's probably some free partition programs out there if you
look. Or at least some that can be used free for a certain
period of time.
-Clint

God Bless
Clint Hamilton, Owner
http://www.OrpheusComputing.com
http://www.ComputersCustomBuilt.com


----- Original Message -----
From: "LarryB"


On the backup part I would ask if it also backs up the OS.
Problem is you can't see what is in the backup without
restoring it.

I believe I only have one small partition where the OS is
installed. I
was just
concerned that I would delete all on the drive if I deleted the
partition and then remade it.

I'll look into getting a partitioning program and hope I can
use it ok.
Thanks as always Clint

LarryB
K & L Electronics
South Carolina

Clint Hamilton wrote:

I've never tried it, but from the sound of it I believe that
"Backup" under System Tools will backup EVERYTHING. "All
information on this computer". This is in the basic mode. You
can go to Advanced mode and "Backup wizard" and "Backup
everything on this computer".

As to if "creating a new partition" will delete everything, I
can't say for sure because every time I've done that I didn't
want to save anything, but reformat. Since nothing was saved
from the previous install, obviously I can conclude from that
it deletes the drive. However, this was because I chose to
create new partitions. But I believe you can create a new
partition then install XP on that new partition, but that's
iffy because it has to move all the data on the drive to make
the room for the new partition. Something like that is best
done with a partitioning program.

Again, I've never tried to do any of that so I can't answer
that part for sure. Now that I remember, I have in the past
deleted the Windows partition directory and started over on
that C: partition and my other partitions were intact. I had
the main C: Windows partition and a storage partition--which
remained untouched. I don't know if that's exactly what you
want because I don't know if you want to save files on the C:
area or another.
-Clint


----- Original Message -----
From: "LarryB"

I notice that when you put your disk in for XP you have
choices. One is
to repair and another is to install a fresh copy.

My questions are when you do a fresh copy you are asked to make
a
partition.
Does that delete all files on you hd?
Is there anyway to install a fresh copy without deleting the
files on
the hd?
I have made a backup of all my data files with the M$ backup
utility on
the computer so I'm not worried about that. It is just
reinstalling
programs that I really do not want to do.





LarryB
K & L Electronics
South Carolina

Clint Hamilton-PCWorks Admin-OrpheusComputing. com & 
ComputersCustomBuilt. com wrote:
"If you only have one small partition where the OS is
installed, and you want to install XP over that, you
can."...... but of course everything on it will be deleted. The
"reinstall" of XP, doesn't work. At least it's NOT just a
reinstall. It wipes the drive or the partition, contrary to
what M$ said about it. I found that out the hard way.
-Clint


----- Original Message -----


If you only have one small partition where the OS is installed,
and you want to install XP over that, you can. Something other
than that, you'll have to wait for more replies. ;-) Yes, if
you only have one partition and if you delete that partition,
then everything on that partition will be deleted.

There's probably some free partition programs out there if you
look. Or at least some that can be used free for a certain
period of time.
-Clint

God Bless
Clint Hamilton, Owner
http://www.OrpheusComputing.com
http://www.ComputersCustomBuilt.com


----- Original Message -----
From: "LarryB"


On the backup part I would ask if it also backs up the OS.
Problem is you can't see what is in the backup without
restoring it.

I believe I only have one small partition where the OS is
installed. I
was just
concerned that I would delete all on the drive if I deleted the
partition and then remade it.

I'll look into getting a partitioning program and hope I can
use it ok.
Thanks as always Clint

LarryB
K & L Electronics
South Carolina

Clint Hamilton wrote:

I've never tried it, but from the sound of it I believe that
"Backup" under System Tools will backup EVERYTHING. "All
information on this computer". This is in the basic mode. You
can go to Advanced mode and "Backup wizard" and "Backup
everything on this computer".

As to if "creating a new partition" will delete everything, I
can't say for sure because every time I've done that I didn't
want to save anything, but reformat. Since nothing was saved
from the previous install, obviously I can conclude from that
it deletes the drive. However, this was because I chose to
create new partitions. But I believe you can create a new
partition then install XP on that new partition, but that's
iffy because it has to move all the data on the drive to make
the room for the new partition. Something like that is best
done with a partitioning program.

Again, I've never tried to do any of that so I can't answer
that part for sure. Now that I remember, I have in the past
deleted the Windows partition directory and started over on
that C: partition and my other partitions were intact. I had
the main C: Windows partition and a storage partition--which
remained untouched. I don't know if that's exactly what you
want because I don't know if you want to save files on the C:
area or another.
-Clint


----- Original Message -----
From: "LarryB"

I notice that when you put your disk in for XP you have
choices. One is
to repair and another is to install a fresh copy.

My questions are when you do a fresh copy you are asked to make
a
partition.
Does that delete all files on you hd?
Is there anyway to install a fresh copy without deleting the
files on
the hd?
I have made a backup of all my data files with the M$ backup
utility on
the computer so I'm not worried about that. It is just
reinstalling
programs that I really do not want to do.





LarryB
K & L Electronics
South Carolina

Clint Hamilton-PCWorks Admin-OrpheusComputing. com & 
ComputersCustomBuilt. com wrote:
"If you only have one small partition where the OS is
installed, and you want to install XP over that, you
can."...... but of course everything on it will be deleted. The
"reinstall" of XP, doesn't work. At least it's NOT just a
reinstall. It wipes the drive or the partition, contrary to
what M$ said about it. I found that out the hard way.
-Clint


----- Original Message -----


If you only have one small partition where the OS is installed,
and you want to install XP over that, you can. Something other
than that, you'll have to wait for more replies. ;-) Yes, if
you only have one partition and if you delete that partition,
then everything on that partition will be deleted.

There's probably some free partition programs out there if you
look. Or at least some that can be used free for a certain
period of time.
-Clint

God Bless
Clint Hamilton, Owner
http://www.OrpheusComputing.com
http://www.ComputersCustomBuilt.com


----- Original Message -----
From: "LarryB"


On the backup part I would ask if it also backs up the OS.
Problem is you can't see what is in the backup without
restoring it.

I believe I only have one small partition where the OS is
installed. I
was just
concerned that I would delete all on the drive if I deleted the
partition and then remade it.

I'll look into getting a partitioning program and hope I can
use it ok.
Thanks as always Clint

LarryB
K & L Electronics
South Carolina

Clint Hamilton wrote:

I've never tried it, but from the sound of it I believe that
"Backup" under System Tools will backup EVERYTHING. "All
information on this computer". This is in the basic mode. You
can go to Advanced mode and "Backup wizard" and "Backup
everything on this computer".

As to if "creating a new partition" will delete everything, I
can't say for sure because every time I've done that I didn't
want to save anything, but reformat. Since nothing was saved
from the previous install, obviously I can conclude from that
it deletes the drive. However, this was because I chose to
create new partitions. But I believe you can create a new
partition then install XP on that new partition, but that's
iffy because it has to move all the data on the drive to make
the room for the new partition. Something like that is best
done with a partitioning program.

Again, I've never tried to do any of that so I can't answer
that part for sure. Now that I remember, I have in the past
deleted the Windows partition directory and started over on
that C: partition and my other partitions were intact. I had
the main C: Windows partition and a storage partition--which
remained untouched. I don't know if that's exactly what you
want because I don't know if you want to save files on the C:
area or another.
-Clint


----- Original Message -----
From: "LarryB"

I notice that when you put your disk in for XP you have
choices. One is
to repair and another is to install a fresh copy.

My questions are when you do a fresh copy you are asked to make
a
partition.
Does that delete all files on you hd?
Is there anyway to install a fresh copy without deleting the
files on
the hd?
I have made a backup of all my data files with the M$ backup
utility on
the computer so I'm not worried about that. It is just
reinstalling
programs that I really do not want to do.



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