you now have the two top gurus in the group on your odd problem Mikey! don't apologise hey, it happens to everyone at least once... twice to those of us who didn't learn the lesson the first time around ;) here are a few sites that I have bookmarked to ferret out those odd program files that you will see in msconfig or running in task manager... they might be of help to you in the future. http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.htm http://www.answersthatwork.com/Tasklist_pages/tasklist.htm ~s ----- From: "Mikey" > > sorry to bother you all with this kinda stuff but thks for the help To unsub or change your email settings: //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk To access our Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/