see that - there IS a solution for just about everything - I downloaded but need to get off here for tonight so will check it out tomorrow - thanks! Dolores ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike" <mikebike@xxxxxxxxx> To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 6:33 PM Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: new question re Norton Start up Hi Folks, here is a link to a small utility from the creator of Spybot Search and Destory; StartupList 1.52.1 http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/downloads.html Recommended for Windows 95/98/98SE/ME/NT4/2000/XP. The newest version of the efficient and effective program by Merijn that lists all and every autostarting app on your system. Checks Autostart folders, the Registry Run keys, Autoexec.bat, Stub Paths, ICQ Agent, Program extensions, Win.ini, System.ini, Wininit.ini, Wininit.bak, Winstart.bat, Dosstart.bat, as well as checking for duplicate instances of Explorer.exe and checking for superhidden extensions. Mike ~ one of the Moderators It is a good day if I learned something new. Editor MikesWhatsNews http://www.mwn.ca/ ******* Mike's REPLY SEPARATOR ********* On 2/20/2005 at 5:39 PM Don wrote: Not every program or utility that loads or runs at startup will be listed in the startup tab in msconfig. There are other hiding places that are not as easily accessible, but I don't know where they are. I just know they exist. Don -- <Please delete this line and everything below.> To unsub or change your email settings: //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk To access our Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/ For more info: //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/list?list_id=pctechtalk -- <Please delete this line and everything below.> To unsub or change your email settings: //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk To access our Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/ For more info: //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/list?list_id=pctechtalk