-=PCTechTalk=- Re: my new car is a spy
- From: Robert Carneal <carnealr@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 18:41:47 -0500
Night,
Even then- the box does not identify the driver at the wheel, correct? Just
what the car was doing at moment of impact? That is the part that kinda
scared me- I could just see an officer itching to walk up to a car that fit
a certain description and ask to see the black box because witness said the
car was going ten miles over the speed limit. Perhaps my son drove it, and
he was careless enough to allow a friend to drive it, and the friend went
92 down a street. (Let's assume no accident for the question.)
You are saying the black boxes will not reveal to an officer or dealership
that 42 hours ago the car was going 92, correct? I may be the owner of the
car, but in this case I would not be aware of the car being driven at that
speed. Of course, if I ever found out, he would never drive again for as
long as I could enforce that.
Robert
At 06:19 PM 4/14/2003 Monday -0400, you wrote:
>Rose, Rose, Rose,
>
>Calm down. They do NOT identify where you are, where you were, or why you
>are there, or how much $$$ you lost ;-)
>
>Here is what they tell anyone looking:
>
>Vehicle speed (five seconds before impact)
>Engine speed (five seconds before impact)
>Brake status (five seconds before impact)
>Throttle position (five seconds before impact)
>State of driver's seat belt switch (On/Off)
>Passenger's airbag (On/Off)
>IR Warning Lamp status (On/Off)
>Time from vehicle impact to airbag deployment
>Ignition cycle count at event time
>Ignition cycle count at investigation
>Maximum velocity for near-deployment event
>Velocity vs. time for frontal airbag deployment event
>Time from vehicle impact to time of maximum velocity
>Time between near-deploy and deploy event (if within five seconds)
>
>Being a privacy-paranoid person myself, I am not at all adverse to
>crucifying things that provided unneeded personal info, but this, at least
>for NOW, has nothing to do with your proclivities.
>
>nightsneak
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <TechRose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 11:00 PM
>Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: my new car is a spy
>
>
>|
>| Do you know if there is a way to find where this is located..and if it can
>| be removed or disabled?
>|
>| I would tremendously resent the car manufacturer being able to sell data
>as
>| to where I go and what I do..(as a consumer..I am not even talking about
>| personal info.. some stalker of a movie star...etc..) so I can be targeted
>| for even more spam. Then they can say..hey! You cannot opt out as you
>| were at my casino last week..or some other BS. Who needs to know how
>often
>| I go to a movie, a bar, grocery stores, casinos, restaurants, drug stores,
>| doctors, hospitals, etc.
>|
>| Who gave car manufacturer's the right to put a device on my car..without
>| advising me or paying me to gather statistics for anyone. My insurance
>| company has no right to know where I go. If I get in an accident, then we
>| can talk..as we have. Do not make me PROVE I am telling the truth by
>| allowing someone to document my every move in a vehicle "I" own. That I
>am
>| not paid for it is even an after thought. You cannot pay me enough to
>| violate my right to privacy. I have NEVER been convicted (or even charged
>| with any crime - with the exception of one speeding ticket (and a few
>| wasting energy tickets) in my LIFE!)
>| Ok...ok.... I am now stopping my ranting..and I do not mean to kill the
>| messenger...
>|
>| I just need to know HOW to proceed with this.. This does upset me. Makes
>be
>| want to spend more to buy an older car...how dumb!
>|
>| Rose
>
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