-=PCTechTalk=- Re: System Restore
- From: ~OoO~ <SirTroth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2005 23:50:35 -0500
Hey Rick, no need to apologize. No disrespect taken. That's what the list is
about. Reassurance or debate is always part of the learning process.
I probably reacted to harshly to the System Restore. Yes, System Restore is
a powerful tool. I've never used it myself on my own systems, but have on
other systems. Let me take back that statement that it should be used in
lost hope cases.
In my belief, since SR completely restores all configuration changes since
the restore point, it shouldn't be used unless necessary. Do a lot of folks
use it "too much" or "too loosely"? Yes, probably. But, that's really just
my opinion. For some, System Restore was one of the best things MS gave
their OS. For others, its just an additional tool "just incase". I'm in the
latter group. I really prefer to pinpoint where the specific problem is in
the event necessary. If I can't get it, then I ultimately use the System
Restore. Although, like I said, I have yet to use it on my own systems.
Sorry if I frightened anyone on its use. I also mentioned in that last post
of mine that its possible you use SR with no problem at all... I should have
actually said, "many people have used it with no problem." But, every system
is different.
Here's the fear I have with System Restore. You do a restore... then all the
changes you've made in your Antivirus app or firewall will also go back.
That's just an example and of course that only applies if the settings are
in the registry. But, majority of antivirus and firewalls do just that,
simply for the security of it. But, the AV and FW are examples. Other more
important software can be affected... backup software, financial apps, etc.
And, all this, after the restore, you think all your settings on those other
apps are just fine only to find out later on when its too late that the
backup set you did on the backup software wasn't taking anymore due to the
restore, and the backup that's so desperately needed is nowhere to be found.
So... again... its my own thing, really, to use it after trying all other
avenues. But, that's me. Many, as witnessed here on the list, have used it
often, use it often and will continue to use it often. If that's the case,
so be it.
---Troth
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[mailto:pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of DH (Rick) Holmes
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 3:02 PM
To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: System Restore
Joyce.............I have no wish to offend Troth here, but I myself am a
bit worried about the comments he makes in the message below, and I
refer specifically to the 'should usually be left for lost hope cases'.
In the past I have used System Restore frequently to revert to a earlier
state where I have downloaded an app. that I did not like. In fact I
regarded SysRest as the best thing in WinMe. Since advancing to WinXP I
have also used it, and have never, to my knowledge, encountered any
problem. Maybe, Troth, you have had a bad experience? or, are you
confusing SysRestore with a Ghost type entire system back-up? In saying
this I am not looking for an argument, believe me, but I have not heard
criticism of SysRestore before, hence my surprise and hope that we are
at cross-purposes, Troth. My recommendation, for what it is worth,
Joyce, is that you have no need to worry.
Let''s hope that others will have some info to add to the discussion. I
feel the need to sort this out. Incidentaslly, the reason I asked about
SysRestore in the first place was because it is a registry abnormality I
have which appeared with no obvious reason for it.!
Thanks, no offence, Troth!
Rick H
Joyce wrote:
>This kind of scared me! I thought System Restore would be really neat if I
>downloaded something and got into trouble. I have set a number of restore
>points but thankfully have not had to use it yet. And now I am a little
bit
>fearful. Can anyone reassure me?
>Joyce
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>>First off, be careful with System Restore. To answer your question, yes it
>>could hurt. System Restore should usually be left for lost-hope cases.
>>But,
>>your computer is functioning right now, and you can still get it up and
>>running. I would reserve S/R for those more severe instances, due to the
>>config changes it does.
>>
>>To see if it's a specific app, you should go into START | RUN | MSCONFIG |
>>STARTUP tab and uncheck anything in there you're either not familiar with
>>or
>>familiar with but don't want to start automatically. Restart the computer
>>and see if that fixes it. If so, then its one of those apps.
>>
>>If that doesn't get rid of the error, you can try disabling everything in
>>the STARTUP tab we were just at, and see if again the problem goes away.
>>
>>Stay away from System Restore for now. Yes, entirely possible that it'll
>>fix
>>the problem with no other consequences, but there's also a chance that
>>it'll
>>mess up something else you weren't anticipating.
>>
>>---Troth
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