Gman and Sandi I kept finding an item on my startup list called "uninstall_CToolbar". This is that crawler toolbar that SP tries to install. I did not let this be installed and now I cannot delete this from startup without uninstalling the the whole ST program. I can not find this in any of the add/remove programs, ( regcleaner and windows ). When I remove it from the startup list from regcleaner. Than do a search for it I come up with 3 entries for it I delete them restart the machine and it comes back. Don't know if it's affecting anything and ZA has not said anything about athis program wanting to access the net. In the week or so I've had ST on here I have found that unless you run the real time (CToolbar) it is not anymore effective than Adaware, AVG and Spybot S&D. As I don't like anything put on my machine without my permission I am going to take this program and flush it. That's it Steve --------------------------------------------------------------- Please remember to trim your replies (including this sentence and everything below it) and adjust the subject line as necessary. To unsubscribe or change your email settings: //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk To access our Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/ To contact only the PCTT Mod Squad, write to: pctechtalk-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ---------------------------------------------------------------