-=PCTechTalk=- Re: Loading NEW Computer - Acronis.

  • From: RMB White <roguer@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 15:37:46 +1300

GMan !!

Delighted to receive your sage advice (and fully understand your time 
constraints)

1. I did download the new Acronis which copes with Win 7, but even then 
found that
it would take too much learning time to get up to useable speed on Win 7.

2. so am happily cruising along with XP pro (NOTE the XP disk provided 
by Toshiba completely wiped
everything from the machine including Win 7)

3. Please see embedded replies below......

On 23/01/2010 7:46 a.m., Gman wrote:
> Roger,
> I don't have much time to get too indepth on this, so I hope my limted input 
> helps get you at least past this stage of the issue.
>
> Unfortunately, you're getting caught up in one of Microsoft's many 
> proprietary traps.  In this case, Win7 uses the same boot loader as Vista, 
> which is very different than the one used by XP.  What you experienced is 
> likely the older version of Acronis' inability to handle the difference when 
> you tried to use it to restore the older system on a new hard drive that 
> still has Win7 boot loader info stored in its MBR.  An update of your 
> Acronis program may or may not solve this issue for you.
>
> I must confess that that the ideal upgrade/downgrade path is still unclear 
> to me.  One the one hand, you can continue to bring back stuff from the old 
> system into a new install of XP (the specific items brought back are not as 
> important as the fact that it's not the entire old system - e.g. full 
> restore), but you will still find that you end up with many disconnected 
> parts.  For example, bringing back your 'Documents and Settings' will return 
> all of those files to you, but many will not be associated with the programs 
> that created them until you also reinstall those programs.  To complicate 
> matters, some programs may not automatically re-associate themselves with 
> ALL of these files as cleanly as they 'should'.
>   
I DO propose to Restore "Documents and Settings", AND the Programs 
associated with them

> Of course, there are approaches that can get around most of these issues, 
> but they can be very time consuming and confusing for anyone who is not 
> already well versed with them.  We can discuss these more indepth if you 
> choose to go this route.
>   
Canu pse elaborate  very BRIEFLY what these "approaches" entail??
> On the other hand, I have heard almost nothing but good reports back from 
> regular users and techs alike who have taken the plunge into Win7.  The one 
> thing about Win7 that really bothers me is that it no longer contains an 
> email program like Outlook Express or Windows Mail (and I dislike 
> Thunderbird enough to not try that again).  Still, if you already have a 
> suitable email client you can install, going to Win7 full-time will likely 
> save you many weeks of headaches in trying to reconstruct an older system 
> from pieces and parts.  Assuming there are updated versions for all of your 
> favorite programs, it should be a relatively simple matter to bring over all 
> of your data from the old system.  Again, if you choose to go this route, we 
> can discuss the details in a separate thread.
>   
I have already downloaded (to the new machine)  the latest version of 
Thunderbird
(with which I am now quite happy after sorting out some of the bugs 
about which
I asked you before).

HOWEVER, if I DID decide to reverse arms and attempt Win 7, does this 
mean I merely
 download new versions of my other Apps, and then do a restore of Data 
and THAT'S IT ??

It seems TOO simple and I am reluctant to embroil myself in the 
complexities of a new OS I don't understand
as well as hope to restore 7 years of work and records AND avoid 
scrambled eggs all over the floor!

So, I am favouring most strongly going the XP route

So, consider all of this (admittedly limited) info and see if it allows you
> some more targetted questions to pose on how you might want to procede.  My 
> focus here is to minimize the angst, pain, frustration & spots before the 
> eyes, but I'm afraid there's little I can do to help prevent itching between 
> the toes and slurred speech.
>
> Peace,
> Gman
>   
So, I look forward to a brief reply when you have a minute (and am v. 
happy your humour remains  rampant)

Roger W
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